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Old 12-03-2005, 07:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Spark plug gap

Going to the shop this week to service the fuel del. system, now Ive put some new NGK Iridium X's in to make things smoother current gap is .038 anyone running bigger or smaller??
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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RE: Spark plug gap

don't think there are many on the board..personally unless you were running Heavy boost I wouldn't bother. that aside on standard plugs I run .042-.044

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Old 12-03-2005, 07:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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RE: Spark plug gap

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Just found out that these are the wires that came with the car, anyone heard of these? Im after opinions.


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Old 12-03-2005, 07:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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RE: Spark plug gap

Sounds like a setup that will Competely F... your ignition. The mercedes ignition baring (again) serious boost is more the adequate.. I saw No performance gain from a Full MSD set up on my black coupe.

Stick w/ the stock set up, just keep it in good/maintained order and you'll have Plenty of spark!

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Old 12-03-2005, 08:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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RE: Spark plug gap

THought so, those were my old wires Ive got stock Bosch ones now no complaints.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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RE: Spark plug gap

Excellent:)

I would double check those Bosch wires w/ an Ohn meter...wouldn't be the first time I had seen a set from them come out of the box w/ a WIDE variance in resistance:-/

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RE: Spark plug gap

well, i'm running a jacobs ignition and i use the MSD 8.5 mm wires. i love them, cause i crimped and cut them myself! i have exactly the length i need, and 2 extras in case on of them melts on my exhaust (like my berus).

BTW, i have had both bosch AND Beru fall apart on me, but i'll be honest, i just grab them by the wire...MSD has a giant boot for you to grab.

i don't think you can use these wires with stock ignition though.

also, i love the NGK iridiums (the regulars, not the X's). but they are WAY to expensive IMHO, so i just use the w9dco and gap them out a lot.

I swear, the Jacobs, MSD and gapped out plugs made a significant difference in response. i can't say i am getting more hp, but it's much more responsive to the gas pedal.
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RE: Spark plug gap

Whats the gap youre running and tell me more about the Jacobs Ignition youve got.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
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RE: Spark plug gap

Yea, if you grab any of the by the wire that'll kill em;-)

My black coupe seems just the tinyest bit cripser then my white coupe, but I chalk that up to a 10:1 motor. Having put both cars on my osciliscope the MSD Barely put out anymore juice then the stock coil..rather dissapointing for about 700 in parts:-/

I had a set of Jacobs wires on my Wagon...I don't think the stock iginition bits liked it too much..ate the rotor about 2/3 of the way to Virgina one trip.

Anyone like to purchase a set of good used Jacobs wires for an M103..Lifetime guarantee;-)

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RE: Spark plug gap

hehe, i went the other way around, MSD wires, with Jacobs ignition/coil.

i think i ended up with .48 or .5 gap.

so jonathan, why do you think i ordered that cap and rotor from you? heh. i'm going to try to drill out the resistor.
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