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1995 E300D windows, sunroof, seat electrical problem

In the past 3 weeks I've had the engine compartment wiring harness replaced, fuse panel cleaned, and all the fuses replaced. Now the electric sunroof, electric windows,and electric seats work intermittently. If they work they work fine. If they don't,there is no noise; they just don't work.

Three weeks ago, the car would not start so it was towed to a repair shop. The mechanic got it running by cleaning the fuse panel and replacing the fuses. While he was working on the car I asked him to repair the aux fan which was not functioning. He repaired a few wires and got it working, but told me I needed to replace the engine wiring harness. Over the next week I checked this forum, agreed, and made an appointment for the harness. During that week the sunroof and windows started to malfunction. The wiring harness got replaced, but I needed the car for the weekend and he did not not have time to fully troubleshoot the sunroof and window problem. During the weekend the seats started the same intermittent malfunction. Any ideas?
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Everything you describe suggests the convenience relay located in the covered area behind the fuse box. The aux fan relays and their associated relay protection fuses are in there too. Convenience relay could be failing, loose in the socket or the socket could be corroded. No coincidence, I think.

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I am having a similar problem which now includes all of the dash warning lights illuminating and staying on. I replaced the alternator and had it bench tested and its fine. Any suggestions?
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I am having a similar problem which now includes all of the dash warning lights illuminating and staying on. I replaced the alternator and had it bench tested and its fine. Any suggestions?
Most likely the fuses, especially fuses 5, 6, 7 & 9. Check them all by removing and inspecting. Clean the fuse contacts. The best thing is to replace them all with the all-copper fuses. It could also be the OVP relay, but I would start with the fuses.

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Anyone know of an experience 500E mechanic in the OC area of CA?

Thanks, I'll tell my mechanic to replace the fuses as you suggest.

I have had difficulty finding a mechanic who truly has experience with my 1993 MBZ 500E. All MBZ technicians say they can work on it as other MBZ however the 500E is similar yet different. Dealerships have had difficulty diagnosing simple problems and after a $9,000.00 service bill they could not figure out the air bag brushes were in need of cleaning.

Anyone have a recommendation of someone who truly knows this car?

Thanks to all of the good people on this site....
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Everything you describe suggests the convenience relay located in the covered area behind the fuse box. The aux fan relays and their associated relay protection fuses are in there too. Convenience relay could be failing, loose in the socket or the socket could be corroded. No coincidence, I think.
isn't there also a convenience module under the rear seat on the drivers side? that might be something to check if the relay doesn't fix it

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