|12-24-2009, 08:03 AM||#1 (permalink)|
Date registered: Jul 2009
Vehicle: 1993 300e 2.8 - M104 -SOLD, Current: W220 S320, 2000
How-to: Replacing Ball Joints w124 300e
Warning: I am not a mechanic, and my technique for doing this is not the proper procedure. Proper tools should be used while performing this job especially a mercedes specific spring compressor. Working without the proper tools could cause severe injury. Work at your own risk
This is my write-up for how i changed the ball joints on my car....I hope this will be helpful for some people over here!!!!
As I mentioned here a couple of weeks ago, my 1993 300e developed a knocking and creaking noise from the front suspension and on the driver's side. I examined the front end and found a torn ball joint boot (completely destroyed). So I sprayed the area with some lithium grease, and the sound went away confirming a bad ball joint. it still knocked though, and these were original ball joints at 180,000 miles, so i was not just going to change boots, I needed to change the whole thing.....
So the ideal solution when dealing with such a problem is to change to the whole control arm since most likely the arm's bushings are worn-out or close to be. I would highly recommend this solution since the amount of work involved in changing ball joints is significant, and very similar to that of changing the whole arm. the problem is obviously cost as new ball joints will cost around $50 for both sides, whereas new control arms will cost around $180 a side.. So due to financial considerations, i had to change the ball joints only. it is a short term solution, if i decided to keep the car, maybe next year i will get new arms due to bushing wear in my existing ones...
Important initial steps:
1- Research: you have to understand what is involved in this job. search the forums as there is plenty of information. this writeup was very helpful to me PeachPartsWiki: How I Replaced the Ball Joints and Tie Rods . A very important point to realize is that this procedure applies only to w124s up to 1993. if you have a 1994,1995 you have to change the whole control arm as the ball joint is welded in place for some reason.
2-Buying parts: I would stay away from ebay parts for this one, it is such a critical part. I would also only get a mercedes or a LEMFOERDER part. I cheaped-out a bit, and got a Meyle part, but i regretted that instantly as i will discuss later..
So here is are the main repair steps:
1-Raise the car using a jack, and place jack stands under the correct jacking points. you only need to raise the car high enough to be able to remove the front tires.
2-Remove the front tires. try and clean the area with degreaser and some brake cleaner as it will be very messy....
3-Remove brake caliper, and put it aside. This requires the removal of 2 19mm annoying bolts in the rear of the caliper. the thing that really bugged me throughout this job was the brake caliper. it should not be hanging by the brake line, and keeping it out of the was was a challenge. It is heavy. i had to rest it on a box inside the wheel well. very annoying....
This is how it looks with the caliper removed
4-Remove the steering stop. it is a very short bolt that is covered with a piece of rubber right below the brake caliper towards the rear of the wheel well. I forgot to take a picture of it. It needs a 17mm wrench. You need to remove it to be able to access the main ball-joint bolt.
5-Remove brake disc. you will need an allen wrench or socket ( i think 5 mm)..
6- Remove wheel speed sensor. it also requires the removal of two allen bolts. mine was stuck in place so i had to convince it with a rubber mallet. the picture shows the locations and the bolts have arealdy been removed.
here is the sensor itself. it is a magnet so it is covered with metal shavings and debris. don't forget to put it aside and secure it...
7- Loosen the bolts that hold the brake heat shield in place (the metal plate behind the brake). also some small allen wrench needed. you cant remove this shield completely without taking the hub off (we are not going to do that of course), but loosening it a bit makes moving it out of the way easier- it really bugged me. here is the picture of the shield...
8- Now comes the fun part. at this point, you will need to use a mercedes specific spring compressor to hold the spring in place. if that thing launches once you remove the ball joint bolt you will die !!! I did not have a spring compressor that will fit so i supported the control arm with a jack and a piece of wood. not a safe technique as the whole setup could slip out of place easily, but i was careful and meticulous. again, get a compressor if you can, it is much easier and safer....now once you supported the control arm. loosen the bolt holding the ball-joint to the hub. remove the nut and puch the bolt out. at this stage the pressure from the spring will want to push down all the way to the ground, but the floor jack holds everything in place (although barely). 2 19mm sockets are needed for this ...it was really hard to take a picture of the bolt so i did not, sorry. lower the floor jack slightly until the ball joint clears the hub which is still suspended by the strut. it is nerve racking so prepare to be scared.
9-Now that everything is loose, turn your steering until the strut and hub are out of the way. i had to loosen the strut bolts (on top of the strut tower) to give me more clearance. in the write-up i provided earlier, the person who did the job removed the strut completely. i did not want to do that, and i did not want to mess-up my tie rods also. I thing i forgot to add was that you need to loosen and remove the sway bar bracket at the control arm side, if not, it will interfere with the job significantly and will prevent you from raising and lowering the control arm sufficiently to complete the job ,,,easy, 2 13mm nuts.....
10-Prepare your new ball joint. Take it out of the box an remove the protective cover if it has one - discard. Here is why i regretted buying this. the ball joint itself is nice and solidly built, the problem is that it does not come with a new bolt to hold the control arm to the hub (the one we just removed). it seems that the LEMFOERDER brand comes with a new bolt for only a few dollars extra, I should have got that brand since when i removed the bolt, i noticed some scarring and wear. I had to order a mercedes one along with the nuts. it cost me $23 for these two bolts and two nuts. Next time get a LEMFOERDER !!!
nice and clean !! Look at the picture of the new ball joint, two things you need to plan for: 1st, the lower small grove in the base of the ball joint should be facing the inward (towards the ball joint). Secondly, after installing the ball joint in place, rotate the ball joint shaft so that the big groove in the shaft is also facing inward. the main ball joint to hub bolt will pass through that groove....
11-Another major hurdle now! how to press the old ball joints out?? as everything mercedes, the control arm has a unique design requiring a special socket to press the ball joint out, I tried the autozone/advance ball joint press -it was a no go!! it will not sit correctly and it started scaring the control arm. So i called a shop locally trying to rent their mercedes specific tool. they told me bring in the car and we will change them for you for $350 labor, yeeeeaaaaah that is wonderful !!! Of course i started looking for a mercedes specific tool online, and found out you can rent the tools from the peachpart forum members, i rented the mercedes tool, although pricey (around $50 with shipping), but it worked perfectly, the easiest ball joint removal i ever did !!! it hugged the control arm perfectly and i was able to remove the ball joint with only hand tools.....
Ball joint removed ....
12-With ball joint removed, clean the control arms carefully to make sure no dirt prevents the new ball joint from seating correctly..by the way, if you are still running the original ball joints with high mileage (180,000+), i suggest you change them for your safety....there was so much slop in both ball-joints....i was shocked!!!!!! you can actually pull up and down inside the socket.....scary stuff......
13-Now to install the new ball joint: there is a groove on the bottom side of the ball joint that acts like an arrow. it should be facing the inner side of the control arm as seen in the picture below..
14-Put the ball joint in place by hand inserting from the bottom of the control arm. make sure the orientation is correct as mentioned above. install the press as found in its instructions. Press in slowly making sure the ball joint goes in straight so not to damage the control arm. with this specific mercedes press, this is near impossible to botch...best money spent ever
15-Aligning the new ball-joint back into the hub is not so much fun. there is a big groove in the shaft of the ball joint (where the 'ball-joint to hub' bolt passes through) it should be facing inwards also. you can move that around prior to install...then using the floor jack to push control arm up, align the ball joint with the hub opening, push it in, and insert the bolt....make sure everything is sitting and aligned correctly, tighten the nut and bolt according to factory spec (120nm) i think.......
16-install everything back, and enjoy the car !!!!
GOOD LUCK, i will update and refine this more later .......
Last edited by latief; 12-24-2009 at 08:54 AM.
|12-24-2009, 12:39 PM||#2 (permalink)|
BenzWorld Junior Member
Date registered: Oct 2009
Vehicle: 87 300e, 86 BMW 325e, 88 Volvo 760, 95 Nissan hardbody
Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada
so far im finding removal of the wheel speed sensor is not necessary, I understand removing it helps you to move the dust shield a little more but just taking the bolts out were fine the lower controll arm slips right past it.
The Spring is nothing to worry about, the only way its gonna fly out of there is if you un do the bolts from the controll arm to the chassis
Im in the house on a break one side almost complete and its too cold out side to take pictures for you folks ....
|12-24-2009, 11:51 PM||#3 (permalink)|
BenzWorld Senior Member
Date registered: Aug 2007
Vehicle: 93 300E 2.8, 79 450 SLC
Location: Southern California
Good info. Thanks.
98 Toyota Sienna (boring but keeps running)
95 Jaguar XJS
79 450 SLC
93 300E 2.8 (totaled by Silverado)
|12-25-2009, 09:15 AM||#6 (permalink)|
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latief, I'm curious what the rationale was for the Peachpart tool rental to be so high? 3 or 4 times and the tool is mostly paid for. It's my understanding that you pay for the tool up front and then when received back, they refund your money short of the agreed on rental fee/shipping? Sounds like that member is seeking profit more than goodwill gesturing. But what are you gonna do....it's the right tool for the job.
As far as Meyle is concerned (and not to cause a flaming war here)....It's a German company alright, but the parts are made in Turkey, China and India. How they get away with calling them 'German parts' are just very shrewd (read fraud), business practices. It's impossible to offer true German made parts at a 'discount'. You get what you pay for and even though they supposedly design their parts to be beefier than original (when necessary), they're still made in the above mentioned places. The tuner, BMW boy racer crowd are not having the best of luck with Meyle suspension parts aging and lasting well under their cars.
Last edited by Real1shepherd; 12-25-2009 at 09:34 AM.
|12-25-2009, 09:47 AM||#7 (permalink)|
Date registered: Jul 2009
Vehicle: 1993 300e 2.8 - M104 -SOLD, Current: W220 S320, 2000
I agree, the rental fee was 30 + shipping both ways + the refundable price of the tool itself. It is kind of steep, but, I guess he has to make money somehow for his trouble shipping, follow-up, and time...etc ..maybe we should start a rental program for tools on this forum.....
The only thing made in Germany from Meyle is the box logo the ball joint itself is made in Turkey as you said, still i have seen far worse parts such as URO parts which is absolute junk....
Nevertheless, it had perfect fit and feel and looks to be solidly built. as i mentioned in my thread, i am planning to run this setup for a year or so because i will need bushings soon .. so this was more of a temp fix. if i still have the car then i will go for new control arms from a respectable manufacturer...To tell you the truth, i was shocked at how bad the original mercedes ball joints were -even with an intact boot.... the amount of play in both was scary to say the least.....
|12-25-2009, 10:20 AM||#8 (permalink)|
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I like the idea about a tool rental program of our own, here! I know one of our members bought the MB tools for the bushings, for example. Both my ball joints are going out...waiting for decent weather now
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