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Old 04-16-2008, 11:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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M104 TIMING CHAIN SLAP ...

Hello everyone ! I have a 1993 300e with the 3.2 m104 . if i shut the motor off for more than 1 hour or so and restart it i get what appears to be a timing chain slap . or at least that is what it sounds like . it goes away the second that the oil pressure builds in 1-2 seconds . i run 5w40 royal purple . the car has 155,000 miles and a perfect maintinence record . my theory is that there is a bad check valve in the oiling system causing it to drain out when the engine is shut off . any ideas ? is there a check valve in the oil filter housing ?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello everyone ! I have a 1993 300e with the 3.2 m104 . if i shut the motor off for more than 1 hour or so and restart it i get what appears to be a timing chain slap . or at least that is what it sounds like . it goes away the second that the oil pressure builds in 1-2 seconds . i run 5w40 royal purple . the car has 155,000 miles and a perfect maintinence record . my theory is that there is a bad check valve in the oiling system causing it to drain out when the engine is shut off . any ideas ? is there a check valve in the oil filter housing ?
5-40 weight? where are you located?
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i live in nj . not too hot and not too cold ... averages maybe in the 50s or 60s this time of year ..
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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you should be using Mobil1 15W50 with 155K miles. If you refer to factory recomendations for lubricants you will find that 15w50 is suitable especially going into spring time.
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I run 15-40 dino oil in both my m103s and are climates are similar. I've read bad reviews about royal purple but haven't used it myself.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Intriguing oil weight discussions aside your car has a problem and you need to find out where the noise is coming from You need an assistant and a stethoscope. If it does it every hour you should be able to find it quickly. Bad oil check valves are more commonly associated with early 119 motors but you do have one, and it would be fairly inexpensive to just replace it. You should wait too long to get the valve cover off to have a look.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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my engine seems to like the royal purple .. so is this check valve in the housing ?? the one thing i love about spin on filters is the fact that you are replacing the valve every oil change !
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Where in NJ are you located?

The first thing i would do is change the oil to something that is recommended by MBz in the manual.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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i live in florence thats in burlington county .. central jersey . i have run 15w50 before of several different brands and it does not seem to change at all .
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:42 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I don't see how the oil you are using is the wrong weight. I've been using 0W-40 or 10W-40 Mobil 1 for a long time. My car has 208K miles and no sign of timing chain problems. I guess you could try Mobil 1 to see if the noise dissapears but if not, you have to repair it.
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