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Old 05-01-2008, 04:40 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Bought MSD #6212 Programmable DIS ignition control system with boost retard and must say its sucks. The unit costs $550.00 and I spend about 4 hours installing it with factory wiring connectors from an old harness I had sitting...No start-call MSD send it back.....still waiting on the new one...but don't expect it to last very long....I was a bit suspect when i noticed they included a bypass connector in case the box fails,while this is great,I did not expect to use it before starting the bloody thing.

anyway just a heads up...for those considering
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:25 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Bought MSD #6212 Programmable DIS ignition control system with boost retard and must say its sucks. The unit costs $550.00 and I spend about 4 hours installing it with factory wiring connectors from an old harness I had sitting...No start-call MSD send it back.....still waiting on the new one...but don't expect it to last very long....I was a bit suspect when i noticed they included a bypass connector in case the box fails,while this is great,I did not expect to use it before starting the bloody thing.

anyway just a heads up...for those considering
That's too bad, let us know what the effects are, if there are any improvements or a waste of time. Hope it turns out well.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:33 PM   #73 (permalink)
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How feasible would it be to drop an R129 V12 into a w124. If this idea is insane than what other options would I have if money was no object?
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:12 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Well, Brabus did that back in 1993. They even bored the engine to 6.9 litre! It was set into a E500 body and it was called B1. It had 510 HP!!!! I'm sure it's posible but it might very expensive!
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Old 06-14-2008, 03:53 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:16 AM   #76 (permalink)
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I've got a 93 400E that I would like to turn into a dedicated track car. Is there anyone who does PCM tunes on these cars? I would like to do some porting, headers, and maybe cams if they're available. Maybe someone makes stand alone computers and harnesses? I'd like something with software that I can play with. This stuff is easily available for other cars, is there anything like that for M119?
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:20 AM   #77 (permalink)
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I've got a 93 400E that I would like to turn into a dedicated track car. Is there anyone who does PCM tunes on these cars? I would like to do some porting, headers, and maybe cams if they're available. Maybe someone makes stand alone computers and harnesses? I'd like something with software that I can play with. This stuff is easily available for other cars, is there anything like that for M119?
By the time you do the engine and suspension you may have over $10K invested and still not have the best engine / chassis combo for track use.

For what it's going to cost you, best consider a 500E / E500, which is more then set up for track use.....

Even a 1995-1996 C36 AMG will give great performance and you could buy for around $10K-$12K for an above average example.

A 1998-2000 C43 AMG for around $12K - $15K is a great performer.

In the long run any of the above will go faster at a lower cost....
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:45 AM   #78 (permalink)
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That's certainly true if I were to have all the work done for me. Any engine work I do to it would also need to be done on the 500,E same for the transmission. At first the 500E rear would suffice, but if I go crazy than that's got to go. Other than that it's wheels and suspension which I agree at first it would be more economical to go with the 500E but in the long run I would be spending less with my car. This is all assuming that the answer to my other post is affirmative. Any body bracing I can do myself and even copy from a 500E if I get a chance to see one at a track.
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Old 08-27-2008, 04:36 AM   #79 (permalink)
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I have had about eight different PMs and email asking the different ways to get more power for W124 cars. I decided to put up a sticky to give us one single performance resource to expound on our different methods and results. What I would like to see is all the folks that have put together big POWER projects for any of the W124 variants please write up a detailed post that gives details, the good, bad and ugly of the modifications. Also post up dyno results if you have them and hours/costs so folks can understand what all is involved with tuning up a M103/104 and M119.

To start the known methods of bumping power [but not all witnessed yet] I have put together this little list which will be the second post. As time goes on, I will enhance the POST2 list which will become the index of theoretical, hopeful, practical, and whimsical project ideas.

Let’s keep this thread technical, without any namecalling discussions intermixed. Obviously we want really good conversation but anything that would keep the thread from being enjoyed by all might be edited down so please keep everything fun.



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Ya know, the go-fast stuff is all fun and games until someone puts it into the ditch. It might be useful to prompt folks to consider critical suspension and brake upgrades which should accompany or precede the engine enhancements...or, maybe that's for another thread altogether.

Luckily the 124 chassis, unlike its predecessors, has a number of aftermarket and Mercedes parts bin options that can greatly improve the handling and braking characteristics to match power output. What say ye, McB?
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Ya know, the go-fast stuff is all fun and games until someone puts it into the ditch. It might be useful to prompt folks to consider critical suspension and brake upgrades which should accompany or precede the engine enhancements...or, maybe that's for another thread altogether.

Luckily the 124 chassis, unlike its predecessors, has a number of aftermarket and Mercedes parts bin options that can greatly improve the handling and braking characteristics to match power output. What say ye, McB?
I don't think anyone who has modded a W124 fails to enhance the suspension.

What you need to add is that new motor mounts should always be installed.
Failure of old mounts with added engine torque is the beginning of a disaster...

Even with optimum suspension a driver who drives beyond his capability will eventually "put it in the ditch"

Low profile, wide sticky tires give a feeling of confidence, but are unforgiving once they break loose...can't feel the slip like you could when racing on a bias ply.
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