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Old 11-13-2007, 10:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Speaking of performance for the M119 engine.

Does anyone know the specifics as to supercharging that motor? I've seen numerous post or people who have tried with various superchargers out there especially with the AMG supercharger but still have not seen a final product or updates from those users. This is something I think someone should eventually tackle. It would be awesome on a E400, E420 or better yet a 500. Something to think about.

Then again, one can dream right?
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Speaking of performance for the M119 engine.

Does anyone know the specifics as to supercharging that motor? I've seen numerous post or people who have tried with various superchargers out there especially with the AMG supercharger but still have not seen a final product or updates from those users. This is something I think someone should eventually tackle. It would be awesome on a E400, E420 or better yet a 500. Something to think about.

Then again, one can dream right?
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A Japanese tuner has replicated the old Koenig installs .
If I recall extremely expensive !!!

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Old 11-14-2007, 06:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
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A Japanese tuner has replicated the old Koenig installs .
If I recall extremely expensive !!!

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There was a conversation a bit back that the application was never completed in a roller. Is this more recent? I know they tried to do it but heat issues stopped the project if this is the one from last year.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Speaking of performance for the M119 engine.

Does anyone know the specifics as to supercharging that motor? I've seen numerous post or people who have tried with various superchargers out there especially with the AMG supercharger but still have not seen a final product or updates from those users. This is something I think someone should eventually tackle. It would be awesome on a E400, E420 or better yet a 500. Something to think about.

Then again, one can dream right?
There are two different projects that are in various stages of WTF right now trying to SC a M119 in a W124. The problem is just room [or lack of it]. MY application took the SLS, air pump, and washer tank out of the right side of the bay and was able to get the SC installed but ran into issues on both coolers and the intake side.

Stand alone electronics are the only way to go to drive everything, and MegaSquirt is the direction we started as it is so programmable but the M119 has so much of the subsystems tied together that "breaking" the system to install a primary for the motor and then address all the ASR/ABS/Cruise subsystems into a RELIABLE system has been problematic.

We timed out for a six month period to work on client work and another custom project with the M119 but have not gone back to the SC project. In fact, the SC unit is now setting on a Corvette working wonderfully.

At some point this winter, when everything settles down, I think we might try and look at it again. But the list just doesn't seem to get shorter.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:39 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Does anyone have knowledge on modding the ASR? I was driving and the light came on, then went off when I turned the car off. Is there any way to get this to stay on? Or is it bad for the motor?
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Magnaflow rocks. I have it on my w126, no center muffler. I recommend to anyone. Mine was done at midas. But I am switching to a remus box soon..
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I saw the 6.0 AMG 126 with the custom exhaust and magnaflow muffler! I couldn't hear it because they were working on it but the piping looked really good.
I'm having them fit an exhaust on my 400 next month. I'll post pictures once it's finished.
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i wanted to know which one of these performance upgrades would give me the most performance, but my E320 is my daily driver, so i would want to drive the car every day without it messing up too much.

Twin turbo kit or swapping an engine in from a C36? Or should i get the C36 spec camshafts and head porting done from blue ridge MB?
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Twin turbo would give you better performance by some considerable margin and would probably be not much more in terms of cost than sourcing a c36 engine and transplant into your 320

There is an M104 Twin Turbo kit for sale on UK ebay at the moment




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i wanted to know which one of these performance upgrades would give me the most performance, but my E320 is my daily driver, so i would want to drive the car every day without it messing up too much.

Twin turbo kit or swapping an engine in from a C36? Or should i get the C36 spec camshafts and head porting done from blue ridge MB?
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i wanted to know which one of these performance upgrades would give me the most performance, but my E320 is my daily driver, so i would want to drive the car every day without it messing up too much.

Twin turbo kit or swapping an engine in from a C36? Or should i get the C36 spec camshafts and head porting done from blue ridge MB?
Talk to Jonathan at Blueridge.

There are several ways to get more reliable power out of the 103/104 motors but no matter which way you go, look toward $7000 for the entire package.

The Twin Turbo kit cost plus installation plus tuning seems to run up to $7K by the time it is all done.

A motor swap to nearly anything is at least $7K once you buy the motor/tranny, driveshaft issues, electronics, mounting issues, tuning up etc. It usually tries to start plug and play but 40-70 hours of swap time just adds up.

At some point you might look at just buying a 400E or 500E, selling your E320 and having a fully engineered solution that gives you 275-320HP out of the box. For the bump to 400E I know it would be a cheaper option and depending on the quality of 500E, it might be just above break even.
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