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Old 12-07-2006, 08:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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a few random comments:

to clarify what cascade was saying about the lights: for the facelifted models ('94-'95) the US-spec headlights and the euro headlights are practically the same. so you might be able to save money and buy regular us-spec w124 headlights if you're going to replace the hood anyway. remember to also get new wipers/wiper motors, and trim pieces for under the headlights. it'll be expensive. or you can delete the wiper system and save some $$$. with the us-spec lights you wouldn't have the leveling, but somehow everyone else is able to get by without it here in the US. the only place where it makes kinda sense to have leveling lights is in the station wagons, but even there it's a little redundant given the self-leveling suspension...

i would advise against painting your mirrors, body cladding, etc white, but this is very subjective too. to my eyes, whenever i see a car with body-color trim that i know wasn't body-color to begin with, i think, "oh, the car's been repainted" and, "oh, the bodyshop didn't know what they were doing." cynical, i know, but that's what i think of.

i think w124 coupes and convertibles look good with monoblocks.

i really like cascade's suggestion of adding sportline components. it would be a milder souping-up of the car than going AMG, and likely cheaper, too -- but it would still be keeping things in the mercedes family.

cupholders are nice.

emphasis mine.

although they are pretty much the same, the DOT lights arent quite as good as the genuine euros. the light patterns are slightly different (read inferior) with the most obvious difference being a sharp cutoff at the edge of the light pattern for one of them and a gradual one for the other.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:57 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Mercedes Benz AG openly admitted to the STAR magazine that their motorcars produced prior to 1996 (w210) were "engineered and built to a higher standard" many more cost restraints and more efficient production techniques did away with the "over engineered / overbuilt" ways of manufacture. Some would go as far as to say it was the end of an era. Just like Porsche and their watercooled 911's which debuted in 1999-2000. The air cooled generation was another end of an era. Although some late model Mercedes look absolutely beautiful (CL,SL and S class) they do lack a certain feel to them. Shut the door on a late 80's S-Class and you will feel and hear the quality. There is nothing else like it unless you spring for a Bentley or Maybach..

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Old 12-08-2006, 08:39 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Although some late model Mercedes look absolutely beautiful (CL,SL and S class) they do lack a certain feel to them. Shut the door on a late 80's S-Class and you will feel and hear the quality. There is nothing else like it unless you spring for a Bentley or Maybach..
i really think that mercedes is once again turning out world-class product and their dark era is coming to an end. the cars they make now are gorgeous, and are no longer generic blobs like those made in the '90s.

but only time will tell if they'll hold up as well as our cars did -- or, perhaps more importantly for the company's image, as well as a lexus will.
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Old 12-10-2006, 11:51 PM   #44 (permalink)
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a few random comments:

to clarify what cascade was saying about the lights: for the facelifted models ('94-'95) the US-spec headlights and the euro headlights are practically the same. so you might be able to save money and buy regular us-spec w124 headlights if you're going to replace the hood anyway. remember to also get new wipers/wiper motors, and trim pieces for under the headlights. it'll be expensive. or you can delete the wiper system and save some $$$. with the us-spec lights you wouldn't have the leveling, but somehow everyone else is able to get by without it here in the US. the only place where it makes kinda sense to have leveling lights is in the station wagons, but even there it's a little redundant given the self-leveling suspension...

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i think w124 coupes and convertibles look good with monoblocks.

i really like cascade's suggestion of adding sportline components. it would be a milder souping-up of the car than going AMG, and likely cheaper, too -- but it would still be keeping things in the mercedes family.

cupholders are nice.
Great advice, thank you.

So I got the 94-95 headlights, they ended up being the US version, so no leveling. Already installed them and added HID kits. 6000K foglight and 6000K Bi-Xenon low/high beam light. Still need to adjust all but so far I think the word "daylight" describes how much light this car produces on the road now.

Also I have taken the whole interior apart to for deep cleaning, to run the wires for the new stereo, redo the damaged leather upholstery, and just refresh the look of "every corner" of the car. Previous owner kept it garaged but it had an open top a lot outside as well, so much dust and dirt to be removed.

janos_z - monoblocks! I agree with you 1000%, I have not seen anything that IMO looks better on this car. I just have to do a lot more research to get the right setup. There is so much info, out there. So far I was leaning towards the H&R Sport springs and Billstien Sport shocks, will change the pads on the spot. With that setup I want to try to run 18" or 19" as close to the fender as possible. And the sway bar from 500E. But, like I said, I want to do it right so will continue to do the research.

cascade - I am not sure what is "sportline". I definetly would like to learn more about it. Is it AMG components? or Sports package components? Where is a good source to see the pics and get the part numbers?
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Old 12-14-2006, 01:08 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Hi Babushka,
Have been away a few days so have just caught up with thread.
congrats on the Cab -I'm sure you'll love it. s the top black or blue - hard to tell.
Best description of this car?- style, class, class, style, style, class just keep repeating it.

We have 2 - E320 & E220, both sportlines. The E220 model evidently did not make it to the states as it's only 4 cylinders. The 320 is the one for smoothness, grunt etc.
Driving them, top down, with the bonnet and that badge makes me feel that I'm driving a car with style & class.

For the Sportline info go to this link:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/sportline_suspension.htm
Also look at this site for other stuff on W124
http://groups.msn.com/W124/technicalhelp.msnw
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:09 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:29 PM   #47 (permalink)
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IMO the 1987 AMG Hammer

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I dunno Albert. From the point of view of rarity and outright power, I'd agree, but taken as a whole package I'd side with the 500E/E500.

Besides being prohibitively expensive (US$160,000 1980's dollars) and not street legal in North America, Mercedes-Benz did not support the Hammer from an after sales service POV. Furthermore, the places where you COULD get the Hammer, or any AMG for that matter, serviced by AMG were few and far between. (Read: expensive)

IMO the W124 500E500 had the spirit of the Hammer with a more finished/refined feel to it. Not to mention a full factory warranty and after sales service support of Mercedes-Benz for 1/2 the price (~US$80,000).

The fact that it was Porsche who assisted with the development and carried out the assembly just adds to the allure and value of the car.

Besides, there's something about the car's 3/4 rear profile that I just love. Oh right...it's the flared fenders
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:47 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I dunno Albert. From the point of view of rarity and outright power, I'd agree, but taken as a whole package I'd side with the 500E/E500.

Besides being prohibitively expensive (US$160,000 1980's dollars) and not street legal in North America, Mercedes-Benz did not support the Hammer from an after sales service POV. Furthermore, the places where you COULD get the Hammer, or any AMG for that matter, serviced by AMG were few and far between. (Read: expensive)

IMO the W124 500E500 had the spirit of the Hammer with a more finished/refined feel to it. Not to mention a full factory warranty and after sales service support of Mercedes-Benz for 1/2 the price (~US$80,000).

The fact that it was Porsche who assisted with the development and carried out the assembly just adds to the allure and value of the car.

Besides, there's something about the car's 3/4 rear profile that I just love. Oh right...it's the flared fenders

You'r absolutly correct. I just love it for the rarity but the 500E/E500 will always run through my bloodline Who can resist the wide-body on that baby My car would be the overly exadurated version of the E500 lol


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Old 12-16-2006, 03:29 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Hi Babushka,
Have been away a few days so have just caught up with thread.
congrats on the Cab -I'm sure you'll love it. s the top black or blue - hard to tell.
Best description of this car?- style, class, class, style, style, class just keep repeating it.

We have 2 - E320 & E220, both sportlines. The E220 model evidently did not make it to the states as it's only 4 cylinders. The 320 is the one for smoothness, grunt etc.
Driving them, top down, with the bonnet and that badge makes me feel that I'm driving a car with style & class.

For the Sportline info go to this link:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/sportline_suspension.htm
Also look at this site for other stuff on W124
http://groups.msn.com/W124/technicalhelp.msnw
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Best description of this car?- style, class, class, style, style, class just keep repeating it.


by the way: an avantgarde grill on your cabrios would be fine
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:01 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Sorry to jump in so late in the thread, but...
Babushka congratulations on the new car. You won't be dissapointed. I can't get enough of my cabrio and always have a smile on my face when I drive it.
I've actually put the Wald kit on it and it looks awesome.
Regarding the hood/lights conversion, buy yourself a 94-95 hood along with the lights. I wish I took that route instead of doing the add-on conversion. I will eventually change to it myself as well.
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