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Old 01-26-2008, 03:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Is there such a thing as a 1995 300te

I'm looking to purchase a 1994 or 1995 e320 and I came across a 1995 300TE. I know that they are essentially the same car, but did that year have any cars labelled with 300te?
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Old 01-26-2008, 03:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It could depend on where you are, and it would be a good idea to let us know where you are, but generally the answer would be no. If your 94/95 sedans are called E320 your wagons would be too. So it sounds like something is fishy - either a silly owner or a suspect car.
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks for the pointer, Janos.

The article contained this statement:

"For '96, the new W210 E-Class models offered in the U.S. were the E320 with the 3.2-liter, DOHC six from the outgoing W124 making 217 horsepower, and the E300D with the carryover 3.0-liter diesel six. The W124 E320 coupe and convertible carried over for the time being."

So the 1996 Cabriolet is a W124, like the 1995? I don't think so. Maybe he means M-B sold leftover 1995 model coupes and cabs during 1996.

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the A124 cabriolet remained in production until sometime in 1997 so it is perfectly feasible that the US had a 1996 model year for the car.
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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imon_2nd,

the A124 cabriolet remained in production until sometime in 1997 so it is perfectly feasible that the US had a 1996 model year for the car.
Feasible perhaps but not true.
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Old 01-26-2008, 08:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Regarding the initial post in this thread... When I read an article like that with such obvious errors my confidence in *any* of the info provided really suffers.

My problems start with "The E Class arrives." These cars were initially marketed as the "300 Class" and that moniker continues through at least 1988 MY. My 88 sales brochure clearly states "The 300 Class" on the cover. The "E" suffix on 300E refers to the fuel system, E being "Einspritz" for fuel injection. The D of course is for diesel. It's a small point but worrisome when an article starts off by overgeneralizing.

For the 1988 writeup we get "The 1988 model lineup included a new, crisply styled 300CE coupe, and a five-speed manual transmission was now offered on 260E and 300E." Huh? The 5-speed was offered at no cost for the 1986 model year and then dropped. I've read that you could still order a car that way for a couple more years but the only USA spec. 5-speeds I've even seen were 1986s.

So when the writer goes on to discuss the later years that I'm *not* intimately familiar with I don't know whether to believe him or not.
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Old 01-27-2008, 01:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Feasible perhaps but not true.
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the cabriolet was made until 1997. Do some research.
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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the cabriolet was made until 1997. Do some research.
I don't doubt that - but if you'll read carefully, or even haphazardly for that matter, you'll see that that wasn't the subject of my comment. In the U.S. 1995 was the last year of the 124 - in all forms including the Cabriolet.

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Old 01-27-2008, 06:49 AM   #18 (permalink)
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For the 1988 writeup we get "The 1988 model lineup included a new, crisply styled 300CE coupe, and a five-speed manual transmission was now offered on 260E and 300E." Huh? The 5-speed was offered at no cost for the 1986 model year and then dropped. I've read that you could still order a car that way for a couple more years but the only USA spec. 5-speeds I've even seen were 1986s.
They got that part right - the 5 speed stick was optional in the U.S. on the 1986 300E, gone in 1987, and then optional again in 1988 on the 260E and 300E. I've owned an 86 and seen and driven both 88 models.
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I don't doubt that - but if you'll read carefully, or even haphazardly for that matter, you'll see that that wasn't the subject of my comment. In the U.S. 1995 was the last year of the 124 - in all forms including the Cabriolet.
Sorry. It wasn`t clear. I see your point now.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:35 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Regarding the initial post in this thread... When I read an article like that with such obvious errors my confidence in *any* of the info provided really suffers.

My problems start with "The E Class arrives." These cars were initially marketed as the "300 Class" and that moniker continues through at least 1988 MY. My 88 sales brochure clearly states "The 300 Class" on the cover. The "E" suffix on 300E refers to the fuel system, E being "Einspritz" for fuel injection. The D of course is for diesel. It's a small point but worrisome when an article starts off by overgeneralizing.

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So when the writer goes on to discuss the later years that I'm *not* intimately familiar with I don't know whether to believe him or not.
heh, it's been almost exactly 2 years since i made that post initially. thanks for reviving it -- it was fun to re-read this piece

augapfel, if you keep reading, you'll see that there is no mistake or overgeneralization:

"Finally for 1994, the E-Class officially came to be, as Mercedes reengineered its naming system by putting the "E" before the number and rationalizing the numbers in line with displacement."

looking back now, we all call the whole w124 production run "E-class" as opposed to calling pre-'94 models "300-class" and only the '94-'95 models E-class. "300-class" is confusing anyway, given the 380SEL, 300SE/SEL, 380SL, and 300SL.
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