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#1 (permalink) Old 09-18-2009, 06:11 PM
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Unhappy Failed NY inspection due to frame rot...

Is this an endgame for my wagon? I was just starting on the project but really did not see the frame of the badger being its downfall... I obviously have money into the car already but if it would be too costly to repair something like that (I have no knowledge on this type of thing) I think I would have to part it due to my inability to sell a car to somebody knowing there is an issue fatal issue (I hope my PO had no prior knowledge). Words of wisdom?

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Where in upstate are you?

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Glens Falls- between Saratoga and Lake George

you?

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Glens Falls- between Saratoga and Lake George

you?
Verona, exit 33 on the thruway.


Where is the rot? Any pics?

If it's all over, cut your losses and forget it. If it's in one spot, it could be patched, and another inspector might let it slide.

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no pics, I really didn't ever notice anything being under the car quite a bit and all, so I was surprised, but at the same time... its just one of those cars. Fuggly and always a nasty surprise when you least expect it.

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Well, a lot of brilliant inspectors might suspect that the rocker panels are part of the frame, they like to rust, but further under are two 'frame' rails and I've seen those rust too, where it comes together in the area between the front and rear doors.

The nice part is that if it's isolated, everything is fairly square, and it should be easy to clean up around the nasty spot and weld in some new metal. Then you can do some fancy undercoating work and maybe you could get it through for another year.

If getting it right means making a patchwork quilt out of the undercarriage, then it's probably not worth the effort, but if it's in one specific and concentrated spot, it's probably worth it to repair if you have some money into this car.

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I've heard of people doing the old "slip a 20 in their pocket" so it will pass inspection.
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haha, my buddy did auto sales last year and whenever anybody would do inspections on friend's or employee's cars they would always make sure there was a car in the port next to it, sometimes they would miss the proper exhaust pipe, and put the emissions testing equipment on the wrong car, accidentally, but by the time they had realized the issue... it was too late- the customer was already out the door... wish I only had that problem to deal with (stoked the 81 didn't have to deal with any of that).

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What is this emissions test you speak of?

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I don't know about many other states, but in New York all cars built after 81? (somebody on here must know this number for sure) have to be put through an emissions test to pass the state inspection. Cars built within the recent past are waived from the test and for all I know diesels are exempt as well. Im a business guy, not a mechanic, but I read the inspection list a few months ago and only remember some of it. New York is a pain- the brewer at the place I would at is from Michigan, he just has to send them money every year (from NY) to keep his car on the road!

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