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Old 02-23-2007, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Replacing a clutch vs. rebuilding it

A few months ago (the day before Thanksgiving in Hollywood), I was stuck in traffic in my '83 240 heading up a pretty steep hill. After a few blocks of stop and go up-hill clutch-work I felt the friction point of my clutch noticeably change. Accompanied by this was a sort of screeching sound while slipping the clutch from a stop. The sound continued every time I clutched out from a stop for the rest of the drive home. The next day it still happened but not all the time and that's about where it lies today. When I have to slip the clutch under more load is when it's most likely to happen.

Is this a symptom of the clutch itself wearing or could it be the throwout bearing?

In either case, it's about time to either rebuild the clutch or get a new one (it probably has 215k mi. on it). I'm going to do the job myself. Does anyone recommend one option over the other? Or might this not even be necessary yet (or within the next 20k, say, miles)?

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Old 02-23-2007, 06:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sure sounds like the throwout bearing to me. You may only need a throw out bearing. Rebuild - Replace, What's the condition of the flywheel? It may need to be resurfaced, remove imperfections. Once you get in there and have a look you'll be able to tell. If the clutch, flywheel or pressure plate is worn, I would resurface the flywheel and put in a new clutch disc, presure plate and throw out bearing.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sounds like the chattering of a burnt out clutch.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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All of those parts come in a typical clutch kit right? What brands should I be looking for when shopping for such kits?
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Sachs is OEM. You will have to buy the clutch disk, pressure plate and throwout bearing separately. Don't forget to have your flywheel machined and mark the flywheel's position on the crank before you remove it.
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Old 02-25-2007, 10:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I wouldn't put the tranny back on without replacing everything there is to replace, and re-surfacing the flywheel. just too much labor involved to only do a half-a$$ed job.

the flywheel should be under $50. last one I had done was $35.

mark the driveshaft in relation too its counter parts, too. everything is balanced, and you want to reassemble it all the same way.
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Old 02-25-2007, 04:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It looks like this is going to involve pulling the drive shaft, exhaust, clutch hydraulics, and transmission... I put a new drive shaft on last summer and that was a huge PITA. I'm not looking forward to this. : /

I'll probably replace the transmission and differential mounts while I'm at it. Is there anything else I should get while I'm down there?
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