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Old 11-21-2006, 11:05 PM   #101 (permalink)
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yes, good you stumbled on this rudolf. No bilsteins yet. I would like to do some more shock research before making that purchase. Lenght and stroke is correct, i just want to find out more about how different weight affects different valving. I think the vogtland things shortcoming will be 15 people agreeing on ride height. 15 interested in drop springs not difficult, but all at the same size, probably not. NuR if you reading, can you school me and everyone else what differences could be between a shock for a truck and a shock for our cars? I think vehicle weight should be pretty close...
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:24 AM   #102 (permalink)
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the only real difference is the travel. a truck can have tons of travel, while a sports car might only have a few inches. therefore, the only real flaw in that situation would be higher rate of wear. if the shock is meant to have a resting height of say 28 inches, it will rarely see it's maximum damping length of say, 16 inches. but in the case you were to install it on a smaller car, you'd be keeping the resting height much lower, which keeps it compressed, and reduces the travel of the damper. if in the case the shock you've found is from a mid sized truck with similar demensions, then this doesn't concern me all that much. what concerns me is the "light" valving. this will still result in high wear and a sub-par response. in the long run, you'd be better off with a bilstein. what i'd shoot for is something like a heavy modern muscle car, then buy an aftermarket damper for that application. the real goal here is to find a short stroke shock with a higher damping rate that can be lightly modified to fit a 123 with adequate clearance of the tires. something like a tokico illumina would be rediculously amazing. i'm already impressed by my handling capabilites with old, cheap tires and old generic shocks.. i couldn't begin to imagine my car with illuminas, spacers, kumho exsta V710s on my pentas, heim joint linkage, solid mounts.....
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:46 AM   #103 (permalink)
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79-80 2wd broncos, 2001 chevy 2wd pickups (something close to those, i have it all written down somewhere) both have dimensions nearly exactly the same as the shocks for w123, but 2 inches shorter in all lengths. Bilstien makes comfort and HD's for both of these applications.
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:13 AM   #104 (permalink)
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aren't the standard W123 shocks Bilsteins, which ones are they?

I was thinking about changing all 4 shocks to some nice Koni shocks, seriously body roll with the car lowered now isn't much, just a set of good shocks front and rear is all i need now and she will corner perfect.
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:18 PM   #105 (permalink)
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swap koni's for bilsteins? whaaaat? he purpose isnt to get rid of anymore bodyroll really, its to aquire a shock that properly matches the spring lenght/ride height.
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Old 12-10-2006, 07:02 PM   #106 (permalink)
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bump.... i still want to lower my W123 300D... the big gap for the front wheels is annoying...

and i am rebuilding most of my front suspension..

id love to tuck sidewall but i doubt it would happen without serious body mods and lifting the engine up

ive got a line on a factory skid plate since ive got some killer speed bumps

also.. i would kill for my W123 to be low enough to kill road reflectors. but thats not going to happen...
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:21 PM   #107 (permalink)
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about the custom skid plates

you think you could make some out of some good steel so when i bottom out it sparks ^_^ lol
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:51 PM   #108 (permalink)
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if someone knows how to make skid plates they should get on it. i want two.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:25 PM   #109 (permalink)
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i did have a line on a factory skid plate... but .. ive got a guy that works with metal
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:31 AM   #110 (permalink)
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hey guys. another question.. Are you keeping Comfort shocks or going to Heavy duty? And... I need a set of Factory springs for a W123 sedan with sunroof...
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