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i can get you a complete supercharger kit for the m113 almost brand new contact me if you need more details etc.

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6 speed from a SLK320 may work, though that SLK320 uses a M112 engine and M113 might have different bellhousing holes. Who knows, I've never tried it.

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M112 and M113 are the same thing just +- 2 cylinders
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Cool idea, if you can do this. It will be huge.
I sure hope it's a W126 280SE and not an older one such as a W108. I've seen too many engine conversions in those it's boring.
I'd love to see a W126 shape with this engine, so much cooler.

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It's a w108 he posted the pics of the car on Instagram
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Sorry to disappoint mate lol. From what I understand this has only been done by Mechatronic. From what I read it will be easier to use the Auto box and everything from the donor car though, we will see about the rear subframe.





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Cool idea, if you can do this. It will be huge.
I sure hope it's a W126 280SE and not an older one such as a W108. I've seen too many engine conversions in those it's boring.
I'd love to see a W126 shape with this engine, so much cooler.
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5.5 AMG engine in to 280SE

Yes. I pointed this out in post 12. I suggest seeking assistance on this one in the vintage forum. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/vintage-mercedes-benz/
There may be w126 owners that know the w108 chassis here, but there are several w108/109 owners in the vintage forum.

If you'd like, I can ask a moderator of the w126 forum to move this thread there.

Or you can start a new thread there. Your call.

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Thank you Fonzi much appreciated!

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Yes. I pointed this out in post 12. I suggest seeking assistance on this one in the vintage forum. Vintage Mercedes-Benz - Mercedes-Benz Forum
There may be w126 owners that know the w108 chassis here, but there are several w108/109 owners in the vintage forum.

If you'd like, I can ask a moderator of the w126 forum to move this thread there.

Or you can start a new thread there. Your call.
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Looks like the thread is moved. Now hopefully you will get as much action here as you've gotten in the w126 forum. The Vintage forum generally has fewer members seeking power enhancements than the w126 forum (where members commonly look for power gains), but I personally enjoy this type of thread a lot more in the vintage forum. You are NOT ruining the car IMO, and hopefully helping pave a road for others.

When I recently had my rickety old cheap 1973 280se 4.5 up over 90mph, I started to question how it would handle with a much bigger more powerful engine (like the m119 I'm hoping to put in one). (The 6.3 has the air suspension that a regular w108 doesn't.)

So also researching suspension enhancements might be worthwhile along with this project. If the ratio of the diff has to change, and the subframe has to be cut, then you might find a way to just put in some more modern suspension too.

All stuff I think w108/109 owners will be very interested in.

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Hi,
These engines have been put into various other cars before. Mechatronic do them, Chrysler Crossfires get them, and I even saw a 1955 Buick got the entire driveline from an ML55!
I have an M113 E55 AMG engine and trans that I bought to put into a W112 coupe - but it is basically the same as a 108. it is still not clear to me that it is going into a 108, but really if the electronics are the worry then it is no different. I did a bit of homework, but not exhaustive yet. I am a little way off doing it. But recently I picked up a W126 500SEC that I am umming and ahing as to if I put it into that...
- pretty much any decent engine management system can get the engine working. Fuel + spark + ignition, and it does have a variable intake length intake manifold that most can also make work. In Australia we have Autronic , Haltech and the like
- the trans controller has been hacked by a few people now - so you don't need to throw it in the bin or give your first born child to Mechatronic. See here - New 722.6 Gearbox in you old Car | Mercedes-Benz turbo
- I saved this link as it has a contact in the USA that has swapped these motors into Chrysler Crossfires. Want to Wake Up a Sleepy Crossfire? Drop in a Supercharged AMG V8! - Hot Rod Network
- if you want to keep all the immobiliser system working, try this Rudy fellow - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rudy-compart-b20b3a7
- for a rear end, the easiest is to get a complete rear end from a W109 6.3. It has the same diff ratio as the W210 E55. You also get a rear sway bar and air suspension if you want. They are pricey though.
- another option that a mate is doing here is swapping in a complete rear end from a W126. You get a choice of diff ratio's, and true independent suspension. Just more fabrication. Look under a W126 rear at a wrecker and you will see how it all mounts off 3 main points. I can provide a bit more info if that is of interest - I am a bit pushed for time right now, but this is exciting and I couldn't help myself!
- Your client needs to figure out if he wants to replicate all the ESC etc stuff. If so, then you will need to figure out mounts for speed sensors on each wheel. There was a thread I had saved from Benzworld about Ron Cavallo from memory who put a V12 into a R107, and he did all the sensors. Long project.

I have some notes scribbled down somewhere from reading a whole lot of forum stuff but don't have time to dig it up right now. I will keep an eye out on this thread and hopefully we can steer each other along.
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