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What brand and what kind of body color should I use to have fancy extra shiny looks?

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I want to refinish my 1976 230 W123, Car is already in yellow, and factory paint is in good condition. But I want to repaint the car to have a fancy brilliant look, like attached pics. I really like the rally yellow on 2015 Chevy camaro, and the color code is wa9414/34. If anybody knows a better shinier color, and what brand or what kind of color is the best for me.

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Clear coat is your friend.

(Great looking cars, there.)
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Another good paint would be Tobacco Brown paint code DB423. I have two w111's, one a coupe and one a cabriolet and they both look really good in db423. Get it in a base coat clear coat and it will shine like the sun. (mine are in laqeur but they still shine a good bit).
I will try to attach a picture but im not sure how it will look/work.

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Clear coat is your friend.

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Great looking, indeed. thank you for reply. but Its the first time I want to do a complete paint job. My experienced friend will Help. But He has never done something like these. If anyone knows any useful article, or video. it would be great help. and please kindly explain what you mean by: clear coat is the friend. shall I use it a lot more?
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Another good paint would be.... will look/work.

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Thanks a lot, man!

May I ask what you exactly mean by "Get it in a base coat clear coat"?

and congrats! It is really brilliant brilliant job
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reza gholizade, what I mean is an enamel and clear coat. a "modern paint job", instead of the original lacquer that came with the car. The lacquer paint is not near as good as newer paint. It might not sell well at Concourse but if you want a paint job that is virtually worry free... go with base coat clear coat.
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should I remove the original paint?
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And what is the best pain (Best brand), some say it is spies hecker, some say PPG omi, or sikens?

And if I go for white, which color code is the best non-metallic?
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Hi reza. You say you have an experienced friend. if that is true, then you should be asking them these questions. An experienced painter will know the various types of paints, brands of paints, availability in your area, OH&S requirements to safely (and legally) use and dispose of them, preparation required etc. If your friend does not know the answers to these questions, then they are not an experienced painter! That does not mean that you cannot do a good job though - I did a tafe course on painting and a lot of how the finished job will look depends on many hours of tedious but simple work. When it comes to painting a car, you can choose any two of the following three: a quick job, a cheap, job, a quality job. If you want your car to look like those really flash ones in the pictures you have attached, then you will need to strip the car right down - no chrome trims, no rubbers, no glass, preferably no interior. If you are going to change colours, you also want to remove the engine and the wiring. So, how far are you prepared to go? If you do not want to do all this, then the car may look great from 10 feet away, but up close you will see the quality is not there - peeling around trims and rubbers, overspray, mis-matched outside paint and door jambs, etc etc.

Google "paint a car" or something similar and you will find endless videos etc about how to do it. However, it is quite hard to show someone how to set up a spray gun from a video - and every time you paint (unless you have a booth) the humidity, temperature, and paint viscosity is likely to be different, which requires tweaks to the gun and pressures. But your experienced friend should be on top of that.

It seems you like metallic paint colours. These get sprayed in two parts - first, a base coat goes down. This is the colour, with the metallic flakes in it. However, when you spray it on, it will look very dull and not very nice. You do many coats of base coat. After that has dried, you apply several coats of 'clear coat', which gives the paint that glossy wet look. You can then choose to colour sand and polish the clear coat to make it even smoother and shinier (and to get rid of runs and stuff-ups!). But you have to be careful not to cut right through the clear coat into the base coat, otherwise you have to do that patch again - and it can b quite hard to touch up metallic paints without being noticeable.

I recommend trying to find people that have done painting before to guide you, otherwise see if the local trade schools have courses on weekends or nights to learn. But what lies ahead of you is not something that will happen over a weekend...
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Sorry Reza, forgot about your last question. All those brands you list are quality brands - it is important though that you use the one line of products the whole way through - so don't use brand A primer, Brand B sealer, Brand C clear coat etc. Another option for you would be to call your local MB dealer and ask them who their authorised repair shop is. Then ring them and ask them what paint products they use and who they get them off. But the finished result is only as good as the preparation - if you try to skimp on the prep work and buy expensive paint and make it really shiny, it will show up every ripple, dent and flaw and make you want to cry.
And unfortunately, if you go for white, (and this is my personal opinion here which not all will agree with), I am afraid your car will not look anything like any of those cars you have posted pictures of... White is not really a dazzling colour choice, so you then need to make the car really sharp as a whole (nice wheels and tyres, schmick interior, everything perfect) to stand out from the crowd. I think 050 is the most common MB colour. Have a look here for some options for you - W123 Mercedes
The interior colour will dictate to some extent what colour you can go for.
I hope you realise that if you go back to bare metal and re-do this whole car, you will be spending probably twice as much as what the car is worth...
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