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w108 Euro headlight bulbs

I apologize if there is already a thread on this but I am trying to replace all the old bulbs in the w108 euro headlight to LEDs and I'm not even sure what size bulbs will work, any help would be appreciated.
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Somebody on one of the other forums mentioned that the LED's don't generate enough heat to melt snow accumulation off the headlights, so you may want to keep the H4 bulbs if that would be a problem. Don

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Shouldn't be a problem, just a car for the weekends and I'm in Atlanta
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I did not do led-conversion on the euro light but on the american ones. So check out http://www.benzworld.org/forums/vint...ization-3.html

It might work well on euro lights as well; what are your goals? more light output? Less power consumption or apperance? Remember that if you change the bulb for the turn indicator you either need to put on some resistors on the turn signal circuit or change the turn signal relay
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I did not do led-conversion on the euro light but on the american ones. So check out http://www.benzworld.org/forums/vint...ization-3.html

It might work well on euro lights as well; what are your goals? more light output? Less power consumption or apperance? Remember that if you change the bulb for the turn indicator you either need to put on some resistors on the turn signal circuit or change the turn signal relay
Mostly the appearance and the light output, I have both the euro and US headlights and I mostly need to figure out what kind of bulb goes in the euro headlight turn signal, there are two places for a bulb I'm just not sure what will fit.
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Mostly the appearance and the light output, I have both the euro and US headlights and I mostly need to figure out what kind of bulb goes in the euro headlight turn signal, there are two places for a bulb I'm just not sure what will fit.
If you want light output I'd strongly recomend you to take a high end H4 bulb, and get the pt45 adapter for it (VW split screen van*lights and lenses*headlamps & headlamp parts from Auto Craft Engineeering)
Personally I'd go for Osram Nightbreaker. Stay clear of the 100W bulbs. light output is roughly same as the Osram, but you get about twice the rated current for the headlight circuit which may prove 'interesting' if you are unlucky...

I'm a bit sceptical against H4 LED bulbs as they do not produce light in and only in the same place as the filament does, which in turn means that your reflector will not put the light where it is supposed to be.


I'm attaching a picture of a euro headlight without the glass to help you figure out which bulb is which;

Upper amber segment - Turn signal

Main reflector - big bulb is high/low beam, small bulb is front position light

Lower reflector - Big bulb is fog light, small bulb is on-side park light


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Slightly off-topic, but I have NOS yellow fog light bulbs (not LED) available.

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When I got the car repainted the paint shop installed the euro headlights and wired the bottom part of the headlight as the turn signal, thank you for clearing up my confusion there, and I was able to jerry rig high output bulbs for the headlights but that plastic part should make it better. Are the turn signal bulbs up front the same as the rear? and also what type of bulb goes into the fog light and park light places?
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And also the small bulb in the main reflector, because I don't have a clue what bulb is what
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You still have the amber plastic in the top slot yes?

Eitherway, the manual says 18W Ba9S bulb for the top (turn signal) (but at least in europe they are impossible to find, so I just go for 21W Ba9s instead). identical with the rear bulb for turn, reverse and brake light.

headlight is pt45 bulb (40-45W dual filament). plentiful in classic car shops in europe. should be somewhat easy to find.

position light is Ba9s 5w

onside position light is ba15s 3w (3w is hard to find so just go for 5w)

Fog light is Ba20s 35W (this one is somewhat hard to finding in regular places)


Hope this clears the confusion even more
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