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4.5 sel up for bid on bring a trailer.

1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 Project | Bring a Trailer

Might be worth a look to someone here.
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Sold for a little more than $4600. Nice looking car, that.
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Sold for a little more than $4600. Nice looking car, that.
I was tempted given it's only 45 minutes from me. Hagerty gives the 1972 280SEL 4.5 an Avg. Value of $15,400.

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...enz-280SEL-4.5

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I was tempted given it's only 45 minutes from me. Hagerty gives the 1972 280SEL 4.5 an Avg. Value of $15,400.



https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...enz-280SEL-4.5

That car honestly does look a lot better than most w108 I've seen, but you have to understand how Hagerty's rating system works. They say the average is a #3 condition, which is what most of us would call "mint". Most of us work to get out cars to number 4 or maybe 3 condition, but few achieve 2 which is as good as new, but with possibly some after market parts. 1 showroom floor all original parts condition.

So to say "average" is $15,400, I think that can be misleading. On average, w108 are probably worth about $2000-5000 because so many of them are beat up, bordering parts car condition.

This car could probably work towards # 4 condition which would put at at about, $10,000 on Hagerty's scale, but if you drop this car off at your mechanic's, you could end up with a $5000 bill. The winner seems to have gotten a fair deal IMO. I don't feel like I missed out on a deal though.

The best part of this auction IMO is seeing that a rusty project w108 can make it to the listing block for BAT auctions which I perceive as pretty selective.

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1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 Project

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BaT Essentials
Lot #887
Location: Holly, MI
Chassis: 10806812013973
123,643 Miles
Original 4.5 liter V8 Engine
Complete Car Ready for Restoration
Clean title
Private Party or Dealer: Private Party
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This 1972 Mercedes Benz 280SEL 4.5 is a running project that features it’s original 4.5 liter V8 engine. The current owner purchased the car 5 months ago from a neighbor who had it garaged for many years. The seller has changed the spark plugs and car starts easily and runs, but it will need more work to be roadworthy including addressing a small leak in the fuel pump. There is rust in the body described below, but many original components, a solid chassis, and relatively presentable cosmetics make this a worthy 280SEL 4.5 project.

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The car has been repainted in what is believed to be the original color. There are small dents and some wavy trim around the body, as well as a spot of rust on the rear door as pictured below. Exterior rubber appears to be in good shape, and the rear windows have an aftermarket tint. Sporadic service records date to the 1970s and show the car was previously owned in Colorado and Illinois.

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Chrome trim is intact and serviceable. Rust issues are apparent on the passenger door sill and rear driver’s side door. The floorboards appear to be free of rust in the images provided by the seller.

Attachment from email

The interior is said to be almost entirely original with an aftermarket head unit and speakers being the only modifications from stock. The dash appears to be free of cracks, and the door panels, headliner, and upholstery have held up well over time.

Attachment from email

Here is the worst rust on the driver’s sill. The trunk has remained clean and the original spare tire and cover are intact. The A/C does not work and the heat blower functions but is not very strong.

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The W108 featured a 230-hp, 4.5-liter SOHC unit derived from the 3.5-liter engine first seen in the 1970 280SE coupe and convertible. Service records dating back to the 70’s and the original Mercedes Benz booklet and manual are included. This is a car you can get running reliably and drive as-is, or bring it up to a higher standard with some bodywork and rust repair. It is sold with a clean Michigan title.

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Winning Bid:USD $4,866
Auction Ended:January 21, 2016 at 1:51PM PT
Bids:24
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Jan 21 at 1:58 PM
bmw325_num99 714
Well done I say, what a great car. I have been unable to find the article but I read somewhere that when someone asked a group of long-time Mercedes engineers “Which car is the best car Mercedes has built?” they all said the W108.

1 Flag as not constructive
Jan 21 at 1:56 PM
300F 96
When jbrauner wants it he gets it !!

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Jan 21 at 1:55 PM
Sold on 1/21/16 for $4,866 to jbrauner
Jan 21 at 1:51 PM
Aaron0617 (The Seller) 8
Congrats jbrauner

3 Flag as not constructive
Jan 21 at 1:48 PM
$4,866 bid placed by jbrauner
Jan 21 at 1:46 PM
$4,766 bid placed by Joske
Jan 21 at 1:46 PM
bmw325_num99 714
Whoever wins, you got this Benz closer to the value it deserves!

2 Flag as not constructive
Jan 21 at 1:44 PM
300F 96
Just opened one of those to go with the chips

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Jan 21 at 1:44 PM
Aaron0617 (The Seller) 8
I’m gonna buy these two a beer hahah !

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Jan 21 at 1:43 PM
$4,666 bid placed by jbrauner
Jan 21 at 1:42 PM
$4,566 bid placed by holmesg9
Jan 21 at 1:41 PM
GrampaJoe 13 @old UKguy – In my mind, 1972 was the last year before the beginning of the “malaise” era in cars, so to me, there is a huge difference between a ’72 and ’75 anything. Beautiful car – but, being from Michigan, I’d be concerned about “where they rust”.

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Jan 21 at 1:41 PM
300F 96
Keep going…just opened another bag of chips

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Jan 21 at 1:40 PM
$4,466 bid placed by jbrauner
Jan 21 at 1:40 PM
$4,366 bid placed by holmesg9
Jan 21 at 1:37 PM
$4,266 bid placed by jbrauner
Jan 21 at 1:34 PM
$4,166 bid placed by holmesg9
Jan 21 at 1:33 PM
$4,066 bid placed by jbrauner
Jan 21 at 1:32 PM
$3,966 bid placed by holmesg9
Jan 21 at 1:31 PM
$3,866 bid placed by jbrauner
Jan 21 at 1:31 PM
$3,766 bid placed by holmesg9
Jan 21 at 1:28 PM
$3,666 bid placed by jbrauner
Jan 21 at 1:28 PM
$3,422 bid placed by Joske
Jan 21 at 1:27 PM
Rich Truett 1,168
I’d pop a Rover V-8 in this and forget about the rust.

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Jan 21 at 1:12 PM
Denzel S. 1
There is quite some work to do on this car and my best guess is that the people that are bidding on this car stick to the idea Mercedes Benz stands for: the best or nothing. If you want to achieve that, a single dent or a bit of rust is way to much and fixing it isn’t always cheap. For instance the original Becker radio is missing. A working radio will set you back around 450-500 bucks and then you still have wire it all together. Its the details that matter when you buy a classic like this ;-)

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Jan 21 at 12:54 PM
paolo 69
Why so cheap? All that engineering and design yet folks splurge over a mini or a fiat , who cares if there’s a dent, or rust, just make it safe and enjoy it, not all cars have to be pebble beach

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Jan 21 at 12:45 PM
oldukguy 227
I have a ’75 300D which sits in the barn. It’s in very good shape but it’s not a desirable car (period). Mercedes of this era are worth less than the cost of a rebuilt transmission ….. Fact!

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Jan 21 at 11:21 AM
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Trunk photos have been added.

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Jan 21 at 11:14 AM
Aaron0617 (The Seller) 8
Just sent in some pictures of the trunk that should be uploaded shortly !

2 Flag as not constructive
Jan 21 at 9:25 AM
$3,322 bid placed by holmesg9
Jan 21 at 9:06 AM
Wagonboy 142
I’ll be that guy…. BaT auctions are growing by the week in popularity. Deservedly so! It’s a wonderful format organically vetted by an amazingly knowledgeable viewership through the comments and sellers’ feedback. What needs to happen going forward are better quality control measures when presenting a vehicle to insure all the spelling and grammar are correct and the photos, (LOTS OF PHOTOS, SELLERS!) are of high quality, relevant and properly rotated. Step it up BaT.

0 Flag as not constructive
Jan 21 at 6:21 AM
$3,222 bid placed by jbrauner
Jan 20 at 10:04 PM
$3,100 bid placed by Joske
Jan 20 at 6:40 PM
$3,000 bid placed by Dennisb
Jan 20 at 1:06 PM
$2,100 bid placed by frijoles
Jan 20 at 9:35 AM
Paddy 56
Please don’t let me buy this. Parts value for chrome trim, solid interior wood and seats alone equal the current bid. Otherwise parts cost is pretty reasonable on these cars, ADSIT has rebuilt trans for about $1,600 and rebuilt M117 motors for under $5k last time I looked. Also these cars are not as heavy as some here seem to think, 3750 pounds empty if I recall.

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Jan 20 at 5:49 AM
Aaron0617 (The Seller) 8
To answer your questions sir

The transmission shifts great !!
Brakes worked fine for how long it was sitting seemed to stop and not stick.
Steering does have some play but isn’t terrible considering the age.
The wood trim is not cracked but could use some new stain and

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This auction shows how these cars are appreciating. I don't think I would have bid $4800 (without inspection no less) for a 4.5 with known rust issues - in areas where it's not that common. No photos of the undersides. I'm sure there's more areas of rust in the more common places.

The car had good upholstery but too many unknowns here. The sales price is motivating me to get going on my car.
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The car had good upholstery but too many unknowns here. The sales price is motivating me to get going on my car.

Me too. Mine has more cosmetic issues but sounds like it might be better both mechanically and rust-wise.

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