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Help me clear this mystery!

Back in the late 70s, one of my uncles owned a W115 200, which he sold sometime in the very early 1980s. What I distinctly remember about it to this day is that is had the dashboard of a W123! Many years later, I confirmed that as a fact with my cousins, but I never figured out how that could have come about. Swapping out the dashboard of a /8 for that of a W123 was quite popular mod in my country (Jordan) way back in the early-to-mid 1990s, so I'm not entirely surprised that the proposition was even possible, but to have a swapped-out dashboard in a /8 that early in its history??! I do remember that the car had the integrated mirrors and slatted taillights, so it must have been a 73-75, and my first experience with it was sometime in 1978. So, any thoughts on how that might have happened?

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That's interesting. I never knew there was any interchange possible between chassis.

I think that it was only the 74-76 models that got the slatted tail lights and updated body with no smoking triangle windows. I think the 1973 model offered the m110 engine (like the 74-76) as opposed to the m130. So I think it is often confused as being an updated body model year. But that's all USA stuff where model year is often used (instead of the more useful build date). If your tears are based on build date, then "never mind".

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Well, it did take some modding (mainly cutting out some material from both ends of the W123 dashboard to get it to fit the /8's firewall and what not) but somehow they got it to work and appear to be stock! The only issue was that the /8's original welded-metal steering column would look so unsightly jutting out of the gaping hole where the W123's steering neck would fit. Other than that, not much in the way of modifying the electrical connections was needed, and the oil line to the oil pressure gauge was a direct fit, AFAIK.

That said, my confusion stems from the fact that my uncle, as was (and still is) customary in the country, had imported his /8 out of Germany sometime in the late 1970s, and the car already had the W123 dashboard fitted when he got it! So I find it rather surprising that someone had already thought of such a mod so early in the car's (and the W123's) life!

Also back in the 1990s when the supply of used parts for the thousands upon thousands of w110s that roamed Jordanian streets started to dwindle, and good, crack-free dashboards became harder and harder to find, many people swapped out the dashboards of 190s for /8 dashboards; all it took was to cut a little material our of the right and left corners to get a near-perfect fit. I know this because for some time in 1993-94, I used to own a 1964 190 with a /8 dashboard that had been swapped in by a previous owner, complete with a center console and floor-mounted shifter! Interestingly, very little (if any) modification of the electrical connections was needed to make everything work (again, the oil line to the oil pressure gauge was a direct fit, IIRC.)

Another popular mod to the 190 was swapping out the M121 for an M115 engine/transmission, which was a pretty straightforward swap with almost zero modification needed (the M115 bolted right on to the 190's original engine mounts!) I even knew a few guys who swapped out the rear swing axles of their 190s for a complete /8/W123 rear suspension assembly (which did take some considerable modding to the bodywork, but nevertheless seemed to work somehow! )


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That said, my confusion stems from the fact that my uncle, as was (and still is) customary in the country, had imported his /8 out of Germany sometime in the late 1970s, and the car already had the W123 dashboard fitted when he got it! So I find it rather surprising that someone had already thought of such a mod so early in the car's (and the W123's) life!

When Germany comes into the mystery i might have an answer for you

The Taxi versions from the W 115 had different dashboards from factory,the heater outlets were looking different,in the middle was some lump where the taxameter was fitted,the heater regulators were placed in the center column...

It might not have been a W 123 dashboard,maybe you uncle just bought a car that was factory-delivered as a taxi

Added to your mystery : In the end 1970`s it would have been hard to find used W 123 for such a conversion,and someone buying a new dashbord just for that purpose seems a bit unlikely for me.

What colour had this car ?
When it was the code 629 ( Hellelfenbein) a dirty white,or just plain black code 040 ...Than it was for sure a Taxi,no one here ordered a car in one of theese colour`s for private use. It was to often someone misunderstood even private cars as taxi,as just theese two colour`s were allowed for taxi use in Germany.

In this link you`ll get an idea about the colour

http://taxifreun.de/s/cc_images/cach...g?t=1329778034
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I'm not sure what the exact color was after 35 years, but from memory my uncle's car was either one of these (my memory is more inclined towards the darker one):




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