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post #41 of 60 (permalink) Old 10-26-2015, 08:11 PM
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What size and et wheels and tires have been successfully run on the fintails? Absolute max I would go is 17". I really was thinking 15 would be the right size to still have some sidewall cusion for ride quality, but all the benz wheels I like are at least 16". I want the slk 16x7 et37 front 16x8 et30 rear but expensive.

I had some CLK wheels on my W110 and they fit without any issues. 16x7 et37. Right now I have 16x7.5 et35 wheels. At stock ride height there was some rubbing in the front while turning.
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post #42 of 60 (permalink) Old 10-29-2015, 07:10 PM
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Hi rwd4evr.

I was / have been contemplating a similar project for my 1967 W110. My 2.3L L6 screamed at highway speeds, and even with a 4 speed on the floor, was very sluggish off the line. I was lucky enough to find a complete rear end from a 4.5L V8 with discs, and that bolted right in. Gone are the original rear drums and low diff ratio.

I also used a brake master cylinder and reservoir from an early 1970's 4.5 V8, as my car originally came with powered brakes, twin circuits. Since you don't have much room on your firewall, you could look into getting a small hydraboost from a early 2000's Mustang (I don't remember exactly now). These are powered by the power steering pump, and should be cheap at junk yards.

The euro M110 with the long low intake runners may not clear the left side chassis leg of your car. I thought of doing the same thing, but those runners look like they take up a lot of space. I never had the opportunity to actually try putting one in a W chassis car though, so it just might fit.

I purchased a T-5 from a 1995 camaro V6 that has the gear stick at the end of the tail housing, and another T5 from a Chevy S10 that has the gear stick at the front of the tail housing. I am not sure if any will fit into my W110, but I am nonetheless collecting parts for a conversion.

Good luck with yours, and keep us posted.
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I don't know the differences between the w108 and w111 front ends, but I did read where a guy in OZ mounted a d-jet m110 in his w108 before realizing that he didn't have an ECU. I assumed the m110 would fit. The m110 is at my house, just a few miles from rwd4evr's car. As soon as he pulls the original engine, I am sure we will be working on the test fitments.

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Do you mean The left side where the motor mount bolts up to the chassis or where the subframe bolts up? I did find a thread on a guy in England that had put one in his 230 I think it was. It even bolted up to his column shift transmission. There wasn't any mention of chassis interference. I'm gonna have to try to find that thread again and see if it was a right-hand drive or not. I doubt I would have a room even for a hydroboost considering the clutch master cylinder is right next to it. The firewalls different on a 63 than a 64. No way to mount 4.5 power brake master in there. i'm just going to run non-power brakes, they have better feel anyway. I don't think I'll be too stiff, these cars aren't that heavy. If the pedal ever ends up a little high then I can use calipers for a r107 which are bigger Pistons so it will reduce pedal effort a little.
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So it being Halloween tomorrow here in the United States I'm going to get a little gruesome on you people. I assume you all have a strong stomach's since you really need to have one when you find out how much that one part your missing costs with a vintage Mercedes.

This is the reason I won't be working on my car anytime in the next six weeks or so. My tendon in my hand before being sewn back together and after.
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I purchased a T-5 from a 1995 camaro V6 that has the gear stick at the end of the tail housing, and another T5 from a Chevy S10 that has the gear stick at the front of the tail housing. I am not sure if any will fit into my W110, but I am nonetheless collecting parts for a conversion.

Good luck with yours, and keep us posted.[/QUOTE]

Here is a measurement chart for t5's from Tremec. from the measurements I've taken so far, The 94 and up mustang T5 is going to be the best fit because of the longer input shaft,an adapter plate about a half an inch should line up everything to the right depth. If you use the Camaro T5 I think the input shaft may not be long enough to engage the pilot bearing fully . The shifter will also come up right in the middle of the crossmember under the front seat. If you use the S 10 shifter position it may actually come up through the removable panel in the transmission tunnel but you would have to use an S shape shifter to get it where you want it. The 94^ mustang shifter comes in right in front of the crossmember, some trimming will be required unless I get a tailshaft/shifter housing from something else with a little more forward placement.

Here are some links to tons of t5 info. Some seems to have slightly contradictory info but only minor stuff.
http://www.pro-forceperformance.com/t-5_history.htm

http://astrosafarivans.org/bb2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=146

http://www.moderndriveline.com/Techn...t5_history.htm
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Does anyone out there have a fintail column shift manual transmission out of the car? The one with the clutch slave on the side of the bell. I need a measurement from the front face of the transmission where it meets the bell, to the tip of the input shaft. Also the length to the end of the splines. The diameter of the bearing retainer that centers it in the bell would be great too. I need to draw the t5 adapter up in 3d and I can't turn wrenches for at least another 4 weeks. 😞

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My hand is usable again!! Spent most of the business plan money I had on surgery but I'm getting it back together. I think I found a property to rent with a big garage a ten plus car carport and tons of space with no neibors. I hope this pans out, I'm ready to part some shit out and build some cars!! I will be selling tons of benz parts soon, keep me in mind.
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