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Help, need a trustworthy mechanic!!!!

I live in central Mississippi after being gone for a few years and I need a trustworthy mechanic that will work on a 1975 450 se. I've called the local dealership and they are ridiculous. They didn't want anything to do with me at first but money talks and hit me with a $420 estimate for a starter install. Also, I supplied the part. Now I need to replace the neutral safety switch. Any help is much appreciated.
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Don't just limit your self to Ms. Possibly Louisiana north of NOLA.

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Replacing starters on theses cars isn't easy. I wonder if @Ears is anywhere near you and has an recommendations.

Oops. Edit. Ears isn't even in your state, and not central.

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Neutral safety switches aren't too tough to replace, assuming you have access to a jack and some tools. I replaced the one in my 108 pretty quickly, but I had access to the side of the tranny.

I've often seen mechanics blanch from a job on a Mercedes because of how "rare" or "different" they are, etc etc. In one case, I wanted to replace the rear inner bearings but didn't have the tools (or confidence) to do it myself. When I downloaded a how-to article from this site and took it to them, their reply was "oh, it's just like a Ford." If you find a local mechanic to do stuff for you, arm yourself (or him) with as much tech data as you can.

Contrary to popular belief, Mercedes' engineering was not light years ahead of the competition, and aside from different tolerances or dimensions, what was normal for the age was shared amongst many manufacturers.
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Do tell.

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Do tell.

Well, I have not replaced (or removed) a starter on a w116, but simply accessing the top Allen bolt often requires lowering the transmission just to gain access.

Now if the w116 is like the w108 and they have an access panel to get at the bolt from the inside of the cabin, I guess it should be a lot easier, but even then, you do still need to detach the old starter from the brittle old wires and connect the new starter, all before you start trying to line those bolts up.

I am assuming the w116 does not have this access panel like the w108 did.
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I was trying to figure out why later models wouldn't get this. I friend of mine mentioned that the later style consoles cover up the entire trans tunnel, meaning you'd have to remove the interior, and it's just easier to get about 3 feet of extensions and pray.

Has anyone here replaced the starter on a w116?


Edit: this guy says it took him a day and a half on his 450sl...

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Well, I have not replaced (or removed) a starter on a w116...
Yeah, I didn't think so.

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Yeah, I didn't think so.

But I have removed starters from several MB of this era and know how difficult even the removal can be, especially on a tight m117 like in the video shown above.

Please share your experiences with w116 and m117 to further the collective knowledge of the forum.

Edit: I don't have books for the w116, so I searched for labor hours and haven't found anything yet. This was the best link I've found on starter issues in a w116. http://forum.w116.org/mechanicals/starter/

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I live in central Mississippi after being gone for a few years and I need a trustworthy mechanic that will work on a 1975 450 se. I've called the local dealership and they are ridiculous. They didn't want anything to do with me at first but money talks and hit me with a $420 estimate for a starter install. Also, I supplied the part. Now I need to replace the neutral safety switch. Any help is much appreciated.
Proceed to the W116 forum, Dave the mod down there has replaced more starters than Fonzi has scrap metal (and that's saying something).

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Please share your experiences with w116 and m117 to further the collective knowledge of the forum.
The issue is not that it's tight, it's that the bolts are grown in by now. Which would be the case with ANY 40+ year old car.

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