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The 111.014 (220 SEb) has M127.982 engine.




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The 220SEB I recently serviced had an M129 engine in it, which is why I added that option. It's not the first swap of this kind I've heard of, either.
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Is there an electric fuel pump in these vehicles, and if so, would I be able to audibly hear it with the key in the "on" position?
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Yes. It's back by the tank. You should hear a hum/whine with the ignition on.

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Fuel pump is on drivers side of tank. I had key in "on" position. No hum or whine. Need to check relay or see if there is fuse.

Still have not figured out how to take gas cap off after first try.
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Hi and welcome to the forum.
Looks like a decent car.
from your following posts I gather you bought this car inexpensively and as a non-rummer.
That should be o.k., but you have a few tasks ahead of you and it's more than buy a new battery and turn the key.

Old gas gunks up the fuel system and it looks like that's what you have,

Maybe you can fill in your profil where-abouts you are, it's always nice to know who we're corresponding with and where that person lives.

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I am in Southern CA
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How long has it been since the car was running?
You might want to educate yourself using Kent Bergma's resurrecting the 6.3 video series. Nothing related to the air suspension pertains to this car. Everything relating to the fuel system pertains to this car though. Bad gas is not your friend.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...Pu2clnNUDh7OtU

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Alex,

I am in Rancho Cucamonga, Ca. Scoot thanks for the link. I will take notes.

I do not know the last time the car ran. It sat in a garage for many years waiting to be revived. I was to that the car had fuel injector issues and a short that would drain the battery. In the short time I have spent in the car, I have found that the fuel pump does not work. I have yet to test the leads. I may just grab a test and check back in later.
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It sat in a garage for many years waiting to be revived. I was to that the car had fuel injector issues and a short that would drain the battery. In the short time I have spent in the car, I have found that the fuel pump does not work. I have yet to test the leads. I may just grab a test and check back in later.
I would strongly recommend that you don't run the fuel pump until you have cleaned out the fuel lines (everywhere) as pumping more bad gas through the system will make things worse.

You do not need to do everything in the videos in the same way that they are done in the videos. But basically before you start the car it would be good to clean everything within the fuel system so as not to gum up the injectors more than they already are. The tank will need to be cleaned - search the forum, lots of approaches, doesn't have to be expensive. The injectors themselves probably need to be cleaned (which you will see in the videos, you can probably come to my house and do that sometime if you want).

Do you know if the engine turns? And if so, have you cranked it? If you haven't there are things you might want to do first (read other people's writings, I don't know the list) in terms of stuff to put in the cylinders before moving them for the first time in years.

A 65 220 SE is a really nice car. I'm curious as to why you purchased it and if you have done this type of thing before. It is an unusual purchase for someone new to this type of car, but not a bad purchase (unless it is a rust bucket, then you purchased a learning experience that might be lots of fun).

Automatic or manual transmission?

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I answered a call from craigslist to purchase a construction plank that I needed to fininsh some work I have here at my house. I saw the car in the person's garage and we struck up a conversation regarding the car. The owner mentioned that she would be moving and if I had any interest purchasing the car. I affirmed that I did , and she contacted me after a few weeks to see if I was still interested.

I have worked on vehicles before, but never a Mercedes or, anything European. There seems to be no gas in the gas tank, although the gauge reads 3/4 full. I am tempted to open the very useful drain plug on the tank, but after 40 years I probably let it sleep and remove the tank entirely and flush it out. I am still evaluating what needs to be done to this MB as I have other projects as well, such as the house, 56 chevy pickup, 62 chevy nova, 67 el camino (yes, I am a GM guy). Will check in later.

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