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try epc

they list 8-9 dif keys

0007600406 master key huf
0007600606 master key ymos -front doors
0007665106 blank master key huf

and a couple other

have no idea what those initials mean

Thanks Rumb! I just called my local dealer and they told me that they told me that they don't have or cut keys on site, and that the keys would come from Texas. I mentioned the classic center, but didn't get any response on that. He told me it would be about $45. I guess I will wait until Tom Hanson is in. Hopefully he is in the office today and I will just order from him. He already has the info on the car and my CC on file.

As for the key part numbers, it seems that one of the part numbers mentioned above doesn't apply to my car for whatever reason.

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Out of curiosity, I checked to see if w115 door handles are the same, and they are not. 108 part number for 108 and 115 part number for 115.

A very good turn of events on the ignition though... The 1972 350sl 4.5 steering lock and tumbler seem to be the same part number. I have a key and steering lock that I removed from the 1972 350sl I parted out. I am not sure it is original to the VIN of that car, but if I have to go in and busy out this steering lock, it seems I could do it and not even have to buy a new one. I was about willing to sell this to someone else for as little as $50. So other than losing $50 and the ability to help out a friend, it seems the ignition loss will mostly be time, not necessarily gobs and gobs of money.

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So door, trunk, glove box, locks can all be worried about later. I believe left the car unlocked because I couldn't get any of the keys to work most of the locks. If I got a key to lock the trunk, I'm pretty sure I would have locked it (and probably put the hood emblem in there, not my truck). So, maybe the key losses will be minimal. I've still got my fingers crossed that a dealer key will work the ignition.

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Pagoda SL Group Technical Manual :: WheelsTires / Alloys

I see now that the "pressed aluminum" wheels are not correct for the w108, and they came in both 5.5 and 6 inch variations. I also see that they appear to be the lightest wheel option. It's all quite ironic for a 4.5 w108. I think I will swap in the 5.5 steelies I have lying around which have pretty good tires, and take the aluminum wheels possibly for my 280sl 5-speed.

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1025
822069
95590
108067 12 018031
70516316
430 - 430U = autumn beige
--- (no two tone)
138 - dark brown (MB tex)
401 - single seats???
410 - electric sliding sunroof
466 - central locking system
491 - US Version
513 - Becker Radio Europa (Stereo USA)
524 - Paintcoat preservation
589 - 581+584
--- 581 - thermo king air conditioner
--- 584 - electric window lifters
593 - green heat insulated glass, heated rear window.
641 - white wall tires
669 - ??? Spare wheel.

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Hey Buddy, just had a chance to look at all the posts on this poor beast. Not to be a johnny rain cloud, but doesn't this car validate the "Rule of Three" ? It has bad mechanicals, bad paint and bad interior ! Just the bill to re-chrome all that stuff would be $ 5k. Another 5K minimum for paint and probably at least a $ 3k for interior ! That assumes the drive train can be resurrected without a tranny rebuild. You sure you want to go down this rabbit hole ? You ditched a 107 that was similar to this thing. I do understand you get a kick out of charging up the defibrillator and shocking some of this stuff back to life, I get that. Are you planning a restoration of this or just get it rolling and make it some other poor bastard's problem ?
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Hey Buddy, just had a chance to look at all the posts on this poor beast. Not to be a johnny rain cloud, but doesn't this car validate the "Rule of Three" ? It has bad mechanicals, bad paint and bad interior ! Just the bill to re-chrome all that stuff would be $ 5k. Another 5K minimum for paint and probably at least a $ 3k for interior ! That assumes the drive train can be resurrected without a tranny rebuild. You sure you want to go down this rabbit hole ? You ditched a 107 that was similar to this thing. I do understand you get a kick out of charging up the defibrillator and shocking some of this stuff back to life, I get that. Are you planning a restoration of this or just get it rolling and make it some other poor bastard's problem ?

Yes. You got it right. You know about rust though, don't you Tracy? The lack of rot on this car is the real value in it.

The aluminum wheels will be mine. The car will look better with at the very least the interior put together, and maybe a polish and some touch up paint. I might weld metal into the trunk side panels to eliminate all rust. Maybe I even take the Becker radio out of it for profit if/when I sell the car.

As for ME restoring this car to its glory? I'm 95% sure that's not going to happen.

Tom Hanson says I should get the key for $35 overnighted to arrive Wednesday. So I will know a lot more when that package arrives. Either way, I think this car is coming home when the 280slc departs. That way I'm a net decrease in vehicles over the last few weeks. I sold the 1972 250c rusty rare car a few days ago. The same buyer wants the 280slc at $1600 ($1500 plus the $100 he shorted me on the 250c I delivered to him). My wife knows about the "sell two cars, bring one home", but I'm sure she wouldn't be happy about the "one out, one in". Plus, with no keys, moving the car isn't even an option. Oil smoke clouds at the mechanic's lot are far more acceptable than in my neighborhood too. It would be good if I can get the smoke worked out a bit while it's there.

And oh...as for the transmission, it seems like it may be a non-issue. I'm not sure yet, but I will find out. It may have just been from excessive sitting. My 1973 450sl did that once.

So for now, it sits and waits.

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Are you planning a restoration of this or just get it rolling and make it some other poor bastard's problem ?

The latter. Do you know any intelligent people that try to "restore" a car they bought for $750?

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My wife would love to stare at that car in our driveway. Sincerely. "Its soooo pretty", she'd say.

She'd never want to drive in it, though.
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Big day tomorrow, in that the key should arrive from the classic center.

I put out a CL ad with a reward offered for the keys and hood emblem and also some notes in my truck window offering a reward and am keeping it parked in the same location. I've got my fingers crossed that one of these approaches works.

If no approaches work, I guess I will have to decide how to tow the car home with my dolly, either break the steering lock with the dolly, or drag it home backwards. Then I will have to decide whether to try to replace the ignition or to just part out the car.

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Out of curiosity, I checked to see if w115 door handles are the same, and they are not. 108 part number for 108 and 115 part number for 115.

A very good turn of events on the ignition though... The 1972 350sl 4.5 steering lock and tumbler seem to be the same part number. I have a key and steering lock that I removed from the 1972 350sl I parted out. I am not sure it is original to the VIN of that car, but if I have to go in and busy out this steering lock, it seems I could do it and not even have to buy a new one. I was about willing to sell this to someone else for as little as $50. So other than losing $50 and the ability to help out a friend, it seems the ignition loss will mostly be time, not necessarily gobs and gobs of money.

Attachment 1465633

Attachment 1465641

So door, trunk, glove box, locks can all be worried about later. I believe left the car unlocked because I couldn't get any of the keys to work most of the locks. If I got a key to lock the trunk, I'm pretty sure I would have locked it (and probably put the hood emblem in there, not my truck). So, maybe the key losses will be minimal. I've still got my fingers crossed that a dealer key will work the ignition.
Just out of curiosity, where did you get that catalog????
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Just out of curiosity, where did you get that catalog????

EPC-net Online

It's free in the US, your cost will be $12 for a year subscription.

You can search all parts/diagrams/schematics with your VIN. Meaning it will show exactly what was in your car when built.

I'm not sure how far back it goes tho.
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