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post #121 of 140 (permalink) Old 07-13-2015, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
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Hubcaps and a clip to hold on my grill star pedastal.
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Also got another Mercedes car cover which seems to be a nice fit. For an e-class sedan I think.

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I had to move the car, and interestingly, the car wasn't smoking much at all at first. It had been several days, or maybe a week or more since I had started it. So I wonder if the part of the engine that's pushing oil into the cylinder(s) had dried up while the car was sitting. Then the areas fill up with pressure, which also coincides with higher rpms causing greater smoke. Higher oil pressure = more smoke.

I drive the car a bit anyway. I do like driving it, but the suspension is quite loud when I hit a bump.

Before I went to bed, I buffed the paint with compound and the $40 electric buffer (with the blue paint from my SLC still on my buffer pad). I spent about an hour or so.

Today I discovered that my efforts seem to be worthwhile.

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Add the black nearly rip-free seats from the 1969 280s I parted out, and I think the cosmetics of this car will be far ahead of the mechanicals.

I need to call the machine shop to see how much they want to rebuild the pair of heads for me.

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I got some numbers from the machine shop that seems to specialize in Mercedes around here. (I took my 1964 Lincoln continental convertible to them about 15 years ago for exhaust manifold replacement and head rebuilds, and he remembered me.)

A leak down test is going to be only $90.

Replacing the valve seals and maybe a few guides will be about $560 for the pair of heads. I wonder if I can do any if this stuff myself on the spare heads I have on the bench. It seems one of the cylinders wasn't like the others on my SPARE HEADS:

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Spare heads:
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^^^ spare heads

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Sight unseen w108 purchase

I embarked on a kitchen renovation, and this car is simply in my way. I don't know when I'm going to get around to it. I was away from home for a week and started dreaming about w111 coupes and convertibles, realizing that if I can get a convertible w111, I would be glad to get rid of my SLC Convertible and the w108. The w108 is easily replaceable, so wth, why not give a whirl at selling it.

I took some videos of its current condition, and thought I would post them here before going to ebay. I bought this car opportunistically, and figure I might sell it the same way. I know the d-jet parts have good value. I got $3250 for a rusty 1973 450sl. Maybe I could get almost as much this, which is nearly rot free. However, it needs engine work. I wouldn't mind doing it, but finding the time is tough. I better get my kitchen renovation done first. So before I let this car sit, basically abandoned, I thought I'd make an attempt to sell... Opportunistically.


Old smokey still smokes...

https://youtu.be/v6MuTNuksAQ


https://youtu.be/rjbUkydKwQU

https://youtu.be/WwqfOc976YM

https://youtu.be/tezp6babjQw

https://youtu.be/6s_D9zEQ43Q

https://youtu.be/55KCZJOK1ik

https://youtu.be/tjT03J-VhaM


Older vids::
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https://youtu.be/xYJb77LykN0


Edit... Damn. That was quick. Barely 7 hours on ebay and it looks like it's sold. Scratching my head a little, but... Well hopefully this car will get the love it deserves.

(Edit: looks like I never added that the sale fell through.)

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Finally changed the oil in this thing. Holy crap that was some nasty separated oil with sludge in the bottom and really thin on top. I guess with a stuck ring gas in the oil could maybe do that.

I'm starting to consider the idea of taking an engine from another car. This car is now sitting right next to a 1973 280sel 4.5 parts car with a much better wiring harness. That car fired with gas in the intake. I guess if I keep fuel in the intake for a little while I might be able to determine if the engine in that car is good enough. But what I really need is a spare good (or at least usable d-jet pump). We've now got the following cars at the warehouse that all have spark but no functioning d-jet pump. I'm pretty sure they are all gunked up if we have them. Four d-jets in the corner:
- this 1973 280se 4.5
- 1973 280sel 4.5
- 1972 350sl 4-Speed stick parts car
- 1976 280slc
Only one of the above is a running and driving car. I think it's high time I start assembling a d-jet test bench and maybe employ some help from @MBGraham

Right now we have a k-jet fuel pump test assembly for k-jet cars. I've been telling Jason @rwd4evr to just loop it in and let the pressure regulator in the fuel loop do the job of keeping the pressure down. He really doesn't like that idea.

BTW: I don't really want to take the pump out of my 280se.

I am wondering if there's a way we can plumb up the k-jet pump in a test assembly to maybe go through one of the d-jet fuel pressure regulators we have from parts cars and lower the pressure to near 30psi before going into the fuel loops on the d-jet cars. If we could setup a test fuel pump assembly, then we can easily determine if any of the d-jet components in the parts cars are working. That will get me closer to the decision of what to do with the 3.5 and 4.5 we have, and whether any of those parts make sense to go into my nearly rust free California 280se.

The 3.5 stick SL was initially purchased with the idea of taking the heads and putting them on the 280se, assuming the smoke in this car is coming from the heads (and also taking the 107 manual trans parts and maybe using them in my 1978 450slc 5.0). But I'm not so sure that's what I really want to do with this 280se 4.5. Conincidentally, I've located nearby a euro 1973/1974 450slc parts car that could be the source of a euro 4.5, maybe an easier conversion. But I'm not going to even think about dragging that home until I get a fuel supply test rig setup for d-jet cars. As you can see, we will need one.



All-in-all, the oil change in the 280se was a let down, maybe a waste of money, but I had to give it a try. I used Rotella from a 5-gallon bucket purchase. That 5-gallon bucket only did two v8 MB with maybe a few quarts to spare.

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About a week or two ago the warehouse was overflowing and I needed to bring this one home. It was smoking worse than ever before and I'm wondering if added vacuum from thicker oil is causing more oil to be sucked in via valve stem seals, or it's simply gotten worse.

I'm debating the engine replacement (with used), vs heads rebuilt, and all the other items I know this car needs. I'm not sure if I've created the laundry list of things that need repair on this car, but I think it is time:

- smoking engine.

- front seats currently covered in sheepskins seems sufficient for now, but not to be forgotten.

- radio powers up but no sound (but there's also no antenna for some reason).

- no antenna

- Hvac apparently INOP. Needs investigation

- suspension bangs hard. Needs investigation.

- engine bay wiring harness needs to be stolen from parts car SEL. Grommets to protect it from metal as starter wire arced on one of these.

- bad cold start in cold weather, runs like crap and stalls on initial startup (but fine in summer).

- paint chips and weak paint job

- passenger front window regulator probably needs replacement, but I should have this in the parts cars.

- trunk lock needs to be installed with one that I have a key to.

- need to mount the lower dash piece that goes over the trans tunnel.

- some door wood needs replacement

- need to swap rear bumper with one of the parts cars

- need a trunk mat, NLA, missed the window from classic center. Or to cut my hardwood flooring into place.

- sunroof cable lube

- shifter bushings

(I replaced the headlights and the voltage regulator, and that problem seems to be solved.)

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Sight unseen w108 purchase

I lent my truck to a friend. My r129 is out of commission with starter needing replacement. My 280sl 5-Speed (and the r129) aren't ideal for picking up three kids from school in the rain. I don't want to take my SLC Convertible out in the rain at all, knowing that the next major work is some rust repair and prevention. The w108, despite not yet being a real driver, was the obvious choice. While making sure it was good to go for the short trip, I was really pleased to have the AC fan come back to life. It seems the left knob rheostat was a little corroded and turning it back and forth really made the fan blow.



So now how about the main fan for the defrost?



I've been told that there's no fan knob, just the sliders. My top sliders move as they feel they should, but the bottom ones don't really move. I'm guessing that there's something I need to do inside the dash.



Does anyone know if there are any pointers I should follow? (I will edit if I find links.)


Edit: well, I found this text, which is helpful. It's clear that my blower ain't blowin and the top left slider is the blower switch. I need to track down the blower and see if it is getting power.

"To answer some of your questions, the upper left heater switch is for the blower, upper right diverts air to the windshield or floor and the lower two control the temperature on their respective sides. During the Summer, I have all four towards the middle."
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And here's the write up I think I am seeking:
http://www.jaimekop.com/2012/02/w108w109-heater-levers/
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They say that when the W108 was built they hung the heater on a rope and built the car around it. Replacing the heater fan is probably the most time consuming thing that can be done on these cars. The Jamie manual is very good.

one of the reasons it is hard is that the heater was actually put into place before the steering column and pedals were installed from the drivers side. You have to take it out and reinstall it from the passenger side and the tunnel hump is actually slanted the other way. A BFG will reshape the tunnel side enough to squeak it out.

You also pretty much have to take the entire dash apart. The valves on the heater core get stuck and then the cables break also. They levers may move but not actually do anything. You will need to replace all 4 levers while there, and it is an excellent time to refinish all the dash wood.

When I did it it took 6 months because I fixed everything possible while there.

I have an extra excellent heater core with new orings in the valves. Was boiled at radiator shop and tested excellent. Let me know if interested.

New heater fans are less now than they were a few years ago, but still $$$. I would not ever put a used one in because of how much work it is to do.
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