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post #51 of 58 (permalink) Old 02-22-2015, 01:19 PM Thread Starter
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So Fonzi, Based on everything that's wrong with it, you feel the cars not worth at all what he's asking for correct? Not to sound like a Brocken record but still can't hurt to check it out to see if it really is that bad. If all it needs really is new rubber and some cosmetic fixes it could be a diamond in the rough. Not to sound over optimistic but he does have the parts that need fixing. I'll keep you guys updated on what I find. This Saturday will go down with a battery, magnet, screwdriver, and will bring to a nearby shop to get inspected. Think I can get the price down to $3500. Will check for rust, sound of engine, and my mechanic will inspect it.
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My gut tells me that car is a $2000-3000 car if in good running condition. It's not, so even as nice as the paint is, you have to be buying it as a parts car. I am not aware of many parts cars worth more than $1000.
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What should I tell the owner to convince him to drop the price that low? Going to call him today. Think I should just say basically there's no way of telling if the odometer's rolled over and lets be honest, it doesn't look to be 50,000. The seats are ripped up, will need new rubber for everything, will need to buy new tires, possibly new suspension system. Fonzi how much do you feel one would have to spend to get the car in tip top shape based on what we know so far? $1000?
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What should I tell the owner to convince him to drop the price that low? Going to call him today. Think I should just say basically there's no way of telling if the odometer's rolled over and lets be honest, it doesn't look to be 50,000. The seats are ripped up, will need new rubber for everything, will need to buy new tires, possibly new suspension system. Fonzi how much do you feel one would have to spend to get the car in tip top shape based on what we know so far? $1000?

Send him a link to this thread. Or print it out if he's not a computer user.

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at least $4000 to replace all those items.

seats 1200, doors seals 1200 tires 800, suspension 500
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What should I tell the owner to convince him to drop the price that low?
Ug. I can't keep my mouth shut. I really want to help but this IS frustrating.

Step back a bit and think about something - 75% of the cars on CL and on ebay don't sell. The reason is the buyer wants more money than they are worth. The process of changing a buyer's position is something the buyer has to do and it usually takes time. Months. Years.

If it were me and I really wanted to go see the car because it has nice paint, I would go see the car, drive the car, find out what the rust situation is and then LEAVE.

Email the buyer a link to this thread and if the buyer wants to get real and get educated then that's up to the buyer. The chances of that happening within the next week or two are quite low, but they increase as time passes and as his car doesn't sell. What you might want to do when you see the car (or talk to him) is find out why he is selling it and if he actually NEEDS to sell it to make room for something else, or if he just wants to make some money. If he just wants to make some money and the car isn't causing him any problems just sitting there, he is very unlikely to "get real" regarding the value of the car.

I get the impression from what you have written that you have $7000 and want a really nice classic car. Easy !!!! And you have written that you want to learn to maintain the car. Easy !!!! But maintain an older Mercedes is much easier than repairing one that is in the condition that this car appears to be in.

In my mind one of the bigger negatives about the car is that the owner didn't title and register it in his state of residency. WHY??? If he ever had any commitment to the car this would be a no-brainer for him to do. Yet he didn't.

And so the story continues. I _DO_ think it is worth it for you to go check out the car and drive it. If you want to buy a car of this type it is worth it to look at every single one you easily can, and drive them all. You will become educated on which one is a good one and which one is a bad one. Try to turn this into an educational experience where you become smarter about value and cost and try to disconnect yourself from the outcome of whether or not you buy the car.
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You tell it how it is and I appreciate it. Do you recommend a better website or place to look for classics?
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You tell it how it is and I appreciate it. Do you recommend a better website or place to look for classics?
Thanks. The best place to look for a car like what you are looking for is in dry states, S. California is excellent, Arizona can be good. Coastal S. Cal not quite as good. Cruise the CL ads for Los Angeles and also ebay and see what you can see. I know prices on the east coast will be higher for something rust-free but if you really want a good car, your chances on the east coast are slim... Shipping a car isn't that expensive and driving it can be a fun road trip, but the problem is that you need to see a bunch of cars first so you can compare value. I looked at probably 7 W123 wagons before I bought one. Time well-spent. If your lifestyle permits it, you might plan a trip to look at cars... Or you might find a club member or a forum member who is reputable that is selling a car. That would be a pretty safe way to go also. I would buy a car sight-unseen from someone who knows the cars and tells the truth about their car, and buying from a forum member is much more likely to land you with a car that was taken car of by an enthusiast who already spent all the $$$ on the car...
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