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Oh no, I won't be keeping it longer than 2-3 months. I will be switchin up models.
$600 is about right, I may be off a hundred or two? My friend owns a small restoration shop, so he will be doing most of the work. Any recommendations for a good parts store?
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Oh no, I won't be keeping it longer than 2-3 months. I will be switchin up models.
$600 is about right, I may be off a hundred or two? My friend owns a small restoration shop, so he will be doing most of the work. Any recommendations for a good parts store?
You don't need a restoration shop. You need:

1. tires - $400+
2. brakes - $100 to $1000
3. fuel system - $50 plus labor to clean stuff
4. carbs - $250 per carb to have rebuilt, $75 for a rebuild kit for each carb
5. power steering (if it has it) serviced - Labor, $200 for pump if needed
6. clutch - $10 to $300 depending on what is wrong
7. Radiator - $0 to $400
8. Water pump - $50 plus labor
9. ...

So you are buying this to flip?

What state are you in?

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You don't need a restoration shop. You need:

1. tires - $400+
2. brakes - $100 to $1000
3. fuel system - $50 plus labor to clean stuff
4. carbs - $250 per carb to have rebuilt, $75 for a rebuild kit for each carb
5. power steering (if it has it) serviced - Labor, $200 for pump if needed
6. clutch - $10 to $300 depending on what is wrong
7. Radiator - $0 to $400
8. Water pump - $50 plus labor
9. ...

So you are buying this to flip?

What state are you in?
My friend does the labor (for free). Whatever can be rebuild, will be rebuild. If not, we will have to shop for parts. My friends shop restores almost everything.

No, not buying to flip, but I will try and break even. I want to enjoy the hobby without burning money.
I'm located in Brooklyn, NY.
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If you are actually going to drive the car for a month or two, I think you are looking at a minimum of $1000 in parts. And that doesn't even start on the suspension...

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If you are actually going to drive the car for a month or two, I think you are looking at a minimum of $1000 in parts. And that doesn't even start on the suspension...
You could well be right. I won't know for sure until I look at the car. I'm gonna be leaving in an hour to go and see it. My main concern is the body. Via pics it looks OK but you never know what we will find when we get there. If we have a solid body, then we should be good to go. As far as suspension, we will restore it if we need to and whatever needs replacing will be replaced. Safety is priority. I have some new tires I got in a trade for parts in July, so that's not an issue. Again, my main concern is rust and live rodents. My max budget total is a $1000. If I feel it will cost more, then I will pass as the car is not worth it, maybe a 3.5, 4.5, 6.3, but not a 6 cylinder.
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Live and learn. Good luck, and keep us posted!

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My friend does the labor (for free). Whatever can be rebuild, will be rebuild. If not, we will have to shop for parts. My friends shop restores almost everything.



No, not buying to flip, but I will try and break even. I want to enjoy the hobby without burning money.

I'm located in Brooklyn, NY.

If you a use his friendship like this, I doubt you will be friends for too long.

The rebuild of the carbs alone would be probably $150 in parts.

Used usable tires/wheels might be had for $100-200.

Brake and fuel hoses and fluids alone are going to probably run you another $150.

If the readily or needs replacement/recore, that alone will blow the $600 budget.

Don't a use the friendship. Hopefully the friend will lend you tools, advice, but don't push for:
- space
- time / labor
If you do, I suspect you will have one fewer friend very soon. You'd be better off giving him the car and asking to borrow it once he gets it running. That might be a fair deal.

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3.5, 4.5, 6.3, but not a 6 cylinder.

Uhmm... I think the 6 would be the best driver of that list if engines. The only knock I would have against it would be it being carbs instead of injected, but some say that's a preference anyway.

A 6.3 is a totally different league.

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Live and learn. Good luck, and keep us posted!
Well, I just got back and unfortunately we left the car where it was sitting. The interior was shot and the paint didn't meet up to my expectations. The body however was solid. I was impressed. I had my friend (Alfred the restorer) come with me and he liked the body. There was virtually no rust.
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If you a use his friendship like this, I doubt you will be friends for too long.

The rebuild of the carbs alone would be probably $150 in parts.

Used usable tires/wheels might be had for $100-200.

Brake and fuel hoses and fluids alone are going to probably run you another $150.

If the readily or needs replacement/recore, that alone will blow the $600 budget.

Don't a use the friendship. Hopefully the friend will lend you tools, advice, but don't push for:
- space
- time / labor
If you do, I suspect you will have one fewer friend very soon. You'd be better off giving him the car and asking to borrow it once he gets it running. That might be a fair deal.
I've never been so offended. You don't know me from a hole in the wall and you accuse me of using people? Do you know what I have done for this man?? This man loves me. I helped him find his new shop, saved him over $250K and even loaned him the money to buy his new place. This is just a drop in the ocean for what I have done for him for the 30 years we have been friends, so before you accuse anyone of being shaisty, figure out first who you are talking to. It is you who will have fewer friends, your the one accusing people of being grimmy when you don't even know that person. I have never been so offended. Do me a favor, if your going to respond to my threads in the future, please show a little respect.
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Uhmm... I think the 6 would be the best driver of that list if engines. The only knock I would have against it would be it being carbs instead of injected, but some say that's a preference anyway.

A 6.3 is a totally different league.
Thank you all for who have helped. Happy Holidays, gents.

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Well, I just got back and unfortunately we left the car where it was sitting. The interior was shot and the paint didn't meet up to my expectations. The body however was solid. I was impressed. I had my friend (Alfred the restorer) come with me and he liked the body. There was virtually no rust.
I'm wondering exactly what you were expecting given your budget of $600 to get it up and running, particularly on the east coast...

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I've never been so offended. You don't know me from a hole in the wall and you accuse me of using people? Do you know what ...
While I wouldn't have said it like Fonzi said it, his heart was in the right place. He (and I and most of us) know that resurrection of a W108 that has been parked for 20 years and a budget of $1000 is completely unrealistic. The price on parts is more than your budget for the car. I'm afraid that many of us on the forum (including myself and including Fonzi) have been there, done that, and learned our lessons. The point is that he and the rest of us are trying to establish realistic expectations and help you out since you seem to be starting a new interest here.

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Happy Holidays, gents.
It would be a mistake to assume that all of the people on the forum are men, of for that matter that all of the men are gents...

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