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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-30-2014, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
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Recently picked up a '67 230s that had a mild restoration done to it by the previous owner (seats/paint/motor rebuild). Body is really straight and it's rust free! Carburetors need tuned and the previous owner attempted to do it himself =/ It's currently down at local mechanic where we went bumper to bumper on what issues needed fixed. Most of the budget has gone to replacing the rear end, so now I have 4 wheel discs, carbs are tuned and it's running really nice! I should hopefully get it back next week. When I upgraded the rear, I had to ditch the 13" wheels I'm looking for a 14" of similar style, but in the mean time I am using some bundt wheels.

On to the pics!

and my end goal - air suspension and bagged on a 20" smoothie
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Nice car. Looks to be in great shape.

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Welcome. You won't end up with the same hubcap treatment with the 14" rim unfortunately. Your two choices are the "dog dish and trim ring", in which case you can use your existing dog dish and add 14" beauty rings, or to go with the 14" Mercedes full wheel cover. See Pagoda SL Group Technical Manual :: WheelsTires / Hubcap for descriptions of what I'm describing.

If you are going with the full wheel cover, you also have the option of using 14" aluminum MB wheels. They came in widths of 5 1/2" and 6". They don't work with the dog dish setup and for the dog dish hubcaps you need Mercedes steel wheels up to about 1968 that have the "ears" or "pins" that hold on the hubcaps.

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Say it ain't so! Leave it alone, you'll ruin it's beautiful as it is.....please?

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Agreed. Don't rethink a classic.
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I say paint the heck out of it and make it look timeless, but if you chop or lower it, the value will hold only if the next buyer likes the same thing.

I'm usually the champion for mods to Mercedes', but even I grimace when someone lowers and bags these things.
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I know of perhaps 10 111's and 108's that have been bagged, and a few more that would be bagged if the local laws were not so tedious - so there is a portion of the population that does like the look. I think the drawing looks great, but note that your wheel camber will not be like in the pic unless you totally change to a different rear end type.
You may also want to do some homework into the wheel bearings if you go to 20's as the tyres will no longer be an active suspension component, so more force will go through the suspension and axle components.
Would you really bother doing suicide doors on the back? I just shaved the handles...
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Got this back yesterday Running super smooth

Thanks for the heads up Scoot!

Grubeguy - I don't don't plan on chopping the roof line (or are you referring to cutting into the body regardless?). I don't plan on selling the car once it's done. Granted everything is for sale for the right price. Last few vehicles I've had I've kept 1.5-3 years before selling them, but you rarely see something like this around here, so I'll be keeping it.

drew - for sure on the camber. I'll be making equal length control arms for the front and I haven't decided what I'm doing with the rear just yet. I'd like the camber to match front and back, but that was $1,600 to switch out the rear to discs so I'd rather not replace it again if possible. I've built/owned a couple of bagged vehicles as well as several static dropped or lifted vehicles so I'm familiar with the added wear and tear or need to change out parts. And yes, I'll suicide the rear doors eventually. I am a police officer for a living, but I also have a metal fabrication business, so doing the metal work is the easy part for me.

s10 bagged on 24's that I built a custom frame/suspension for. At the time a lot of people said this couldn't be done, that nothing bigger than 22's would fit.

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5/7 drop

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dodge that's in the pics below - 8" lift on 38's

and for good measure lol
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Yes I do like the look of the bagged cars. I am 41 so I wonder if there is an age cut-off where people don't like it? I reckon that rendering you got done is awesome. But then I am biased, as my V8 Frankenbenz finnie is black with a red interior.
I see the 3 bagged cars driving in the low position - my car is only slightly lowered at the front and when I turn into my downhill driveway my tyre can scrape the inner guard. So do these guys have something set up so they don't turn the wheels when the car is dropped, or do they just drive very carefully down a straight road?
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GoingCustom congratz on the new ride, you came to the right forum as these guys know their Benz.

I like the look you are going for, but pushing 20" wheels with that motor, well it will be a pig, and the ride will likely suck even with air.

Consider light weight wheels and tires.

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