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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 08-03-2014, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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New First Year W115

A few weeks ago, I got burned on a W110 200D that looked to be in fantastic shape and very decently priced. Was all set up to go and meet the fella to view it, and when I called from my car as I was leaving he said "some guys just came with cash and bought it." damn.

A week later, a more fairly priced 1968 220D made itself available. A few phone calls back and forth, and me telling the guy "please wait for me, do not sell! I will come!" and yesterday I went out to Palmdale to check the vehicle out.

What I found was a good honest first-year 115 car, being sold by someone on behalf of the original owner. What really piqued my interest at first was how strangely it was equipped: Manual transmission, No power steering.......but with AC? Strange...but it was indeed factory spec. The car came with original data card, service booklet (with stamps/signatures to 60k miles), and a few other bits. The Cognac interior was PERFECT, and I believe it to be original, as no other bits were cosmetically redone. Original 268h paint showing well, but with plenty of patina.

The car lived its entire life in the high desert area north of los angeles. Zero rust, zero corrosion, solid bones. Really ecstatic to have this thing, and when I fix the AC (looks like rebuilt compressors are readily available), it will be a nice around town vehicle for the fam...between April and October, wife will not get into a car that doesn't have AC.

To Do List:
-Repair AC...likely new compressor + charge
-Repair/replace ignition switch (currently only turns to position 1, and there is a bypass installed to get the starter circuit engaged. glow plugs do not operate, I believe because ignition switch does not enable power to them. car starts anyway though!)
-reseal oil pan, oil change, fuel filters, belts, inspect brakes
-drive the hell out of it
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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 08-03-2014, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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Nice find !

1993 500E 040 / 271 - Porsche Type 2758 ~~~~ 1971 250C Ivory / Cognac Leather

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without power steering , wife wont drive it . i would replace that compressor with a modern one , like a denso . the original vibrate too much .
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Congrats on your find. Looks like a beautiful car. Please keep us posted on your progress.
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Was going through the paperwork, and found this little bit. The first photo is a newspaper clipping with some classic mercedes copy on how good the 250s is relative to the "all new all different dreamboats". At the end of the article there is a clipped section, and right above it is: "find out more about the 250S--clip and send the coupon below and get your free 28 page color brochure."

And then we have the brochure itself and even the envelope the brochure came in addressed to the original owner! The guy seems like he was a genuine MBZ fan...even if he didn't buy the 250S afterall.
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Ignition switch on very early 115 might not go to start position intentionally. I think that there is a knob to pull that releases something so that ignition switch will move to position 2.

Looks like a nice black plate car to me.

Currently: 1967 250 SL, 1963 220Sb, 1965 300SE Lang, 1971 280SE parts car, 1972 Alfa GTV, 1965 Alfa Duetto, 1993 BMW R100R
Past: 1971 250 C, 1985 300 TD, 1967 250 S, 1968 280 S,1981 300 D, 1982 280CE, 3 Facel Vegas, Borgward Isabella Coupe, Alfa 2600 Sprint, Volvo P1900 (yes), numerous less interesting Volvos, ...
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Well, the honeymoon is over. The car now has its first issue, luckily it happened only a few blocks from home. A friend of mine was driving the car, and the shift lever got stuck in 4th gear! I've owned many mercedes stickshift cars, and this is a first. I wonder if the carrier inside the trans broke or got stuck somehow? Any ideas on how to fix this?

Scoot: Thank you for the suggestion. You're right about the starter knob...if it's not depressed, the key won't come out. But this mechanism is working correctly. It will not, however, go to position 2, where you can enable power to the starter and glow plug circuits.
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Scoot: Thank you for the suggestion. You're right about the starter knob...if it's not depressed, the key won't come out. But this mechanism is working correctly. It will not, however, go to position 2, where you can enable power to the starter and glow plug circuits.
I'm speaking from experience that is extremely limited with the ignition switch from a diesel Fintail the last year they made them. It's an ignition switch that I removed with a steering column - the steering column is a gift for a friend. The ignition switch has a cable that connects to a pull knob switch. If the cable isn't actuated, you can't get the switch to position 2. You actuate the cable by pulling out a knob (yes, this is a fintail). When you pull out the knob then you can move the switch to position 2 BUT THERE IS NOT A START POSITION PAST POSITION 2 on this ignition switch. Then I think the starter is engaged by pulling the knob further or ???? All this is 1967/1968 Fintail diesel relevant but it is possible that it is the same on a 1968 115 diesel.

It's possible that you have a knob malfunction or a cable malfunction and that there is no problem with the ignition switch at all.

I only figured out what the cable on the ignition switch was for by coming across this ebay listing:

NEW GERMAN OEM MERCEDES 200D 220D 240D IGNITION TO GLOW PULL SWITCH SAFETY CABLE

The text of the listing indicates that the glow plugs AND starter are actuated by a pull switch and not the ignition switch...

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Thing is, no matter how much I turn the key, the red generator light on the left side of the instrument cluster will not come on. If/when this light is on, the starter circuit has current, otherwise nothing. All the key really does is remove the steering lock. I will have it apart at some point to inspect. Right now the bigger issue is being stuck in a gear...
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