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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-28-2014, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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70's 280ls purchase help

So I was driving by my small town car dealer and saw a dashing little red mercades coupe and had to pull over to check it out. I took some pics and did some research online. Turns out it is a 280sl hard top coupe. Basically I need some help determining what it could be worth and whether or not the purchase price is a good deal. I talked briefly, and by briefly it was about 45 seconds as he was getting ready to take a drive down to texas, to the owner of the little car dealer on the phone. From what I gathered, it sounds like he purchased the car from an auction, and that he doesn't really know what he has. He didn't give me a definitive answer on what he'd like to get out of it, or what he'd paid for it. What I did find out is that it doesn't start, it'll turn over it sounds like, but doesn't fire up. He thinks it is the injectors, but I wouldn't trust his knowledge of the car very much. The paint is nearly immaculate, the engine is rust free and looks good, at least from a non car guru's perspective, and the interior just has some little wear and tear that could be fixed up pretty quick I'd think. I've attached the pictures OPCS772's Library | Photobucket of the car and hope you could:

1. Give me a rough estimate of what it is worth
2. Give me some things to look for that may not be shown in the pictures that could affect its worth
3. How to match the VIN numbers of the different parts to see if it is all original
4. Maybe give me some important questions to ask him about the car

Basically, I need a crash course in purchasing a classic mercades.
He is going to be back in town Monday and I'll bring a mechanic to go and check the car out with him to see what exactly is up with the engine and what would need to be replaced. Once I figure out more about what's up with the car and how much I would need to put into it to get it driving I'll post here some more and I'm hoping you guys can advise me into a good purchasing decision!

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Look on sl113.org and I think there is a buyer's guide. From what I see in the pictures the seats are wrong, and expensive to get correct seats. A Pagoda is not a car you purchase without doing research and looking at multiple cars first unless some incredible bargain falls into your lap. Drivers that aren't rust buckets start in the mid 20s, restored cars go up to 60s to 80s. Basket case rust buckets are in the 10k price range and probably not worth it except for parts as buying a driver is more cost-effective.

The car not starting isn't particularly relevant. The body and rust situation are. As are any missing parts.

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it is never the injectors , would be nice to know what the seller wants for it .when you look at a car like this , think bad engine + ??????????? . a bad car now could bring 50k
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Thanks a lot guys! If he doesn't know how much it is worth and wants to sell for 10 or 15K I think its a no brainer if it could be worth 20 or 30K. Anyway, I'm going to take more detailed pictures of it hopefully tonight and I'll throw them up here. I live in a rural area so there aren't any people around me that know these cars so I appreciate the help a lot.
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I have been restoring Mercedes for over 28 years if you saw the 1966 blue 250 se coupe on the video that's out there originally that was my car and i did all the paint work 25 years ago my advice hire an expert to look at the body and mechanical you can't go wrong there are a lot of guys out there that are very good hiding damage and rust buy a car that's just been painted unless you know the guy who did the car watch out good luck.
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Okay so I took some more detailed pictures. I know this doesn't substitute having a professional who knows these cars come and see it in person, but I figure if you could just browse through the pics and if something sticks out that is good or bad just let me know!

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NADA.com lists the value of a 1970 280SL at $31k to $143k. The true value is what someone is willing to pay for it though...
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I can tell buy the pictures the car has been in a accident in the front look at the headlamp door fit but most of all the small indentations on the inner fenders are gone I see rust on rear body panel lower section could be bad not sure take a small ice pick back to car and check the complete underside where there is undercoat try pokeing all the places they rust the accident part can always be repaired correct rust repair can be very very expensive if done right I remember doing a rust repair job on a w113 car back in the 90s this guy spent 24 grand on rust and paint all I can say check this car out agin with all that this still may be a good car
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