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Glad you picked up that coupe...save it from rotting away.

I still like the Black coupe, but cost plus back and forth to PA does not make much sense.. That black one would be a nice convertible, Nice options with the Ivory wheel and leather...

Blue interior is TEX, black car with parchment definitely looks like leather.
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Good idea on the white interior for a convertible. Black is also easiest to hide rust since POR-15 is black. Those two do make the black car desirable, but with the black car you get:
- mold (beginning anyway)
- leaking trans lines (to the radiator)

I wonder if I could take the trans lines from my currently immobilized m130 250 sedan. The sedan needs a coil because it went back where it belongs. My convertible:. W114 Coupe Seats in a W115 Sedan-imageuploadedbyautoguide1399316131.671446.jpg

So here's the thing... I like the floor shifter on the blue coupe. Which car ends up the parts car? My sedan? Can the sedan rear end be used on the blue car? Maybe I save both coupes? And have sedan extras to save dgosh28's sedan?

I always liked w115 sedans for their looks and was never attracted to w114 coupes. Ironically I felt the same way about SLCs thinking they were stupid when you could get an SL. In both cases, I'm migrating from the cars that I though were logical and cool looking and ending up with not one, but two of each of the ones I never cared for, in both cases because they are able to seat three in the back and can be converted into convertibles.

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I have heard that the trunk pans are the same. How about the metal around the tail lights? I'm considering saving both coupes and using my sedan as a donor.

Anyone have opinions on this?

(I realize I went OT and can start a new thread if that makes more sense, but the pics are already here.)


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Save all three !!!!!
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Oh. I forgot to mention, Both coupes have floor rot. The sedan does not. I'm not sure if that makes a big difference.


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At least one will definitely be parted, and hopefully will benefit you too.


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Coupe and sedan floors are not the same, but perhaps so can get away with sections of the floor. Is it all gone.

I think that black/white coupe is worth saving. That is very rare for a 250C to have leather and Ivory steering wheel. someone paid big bucks for those options unless they were added later.

I hope you save all three if you can.. much better than than riding around in a soda can car with 6 inflating mini bombs without any style.. These are awesome driving once the carbs, wheels, ignition is brought up to the quality of the rest of the car.



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Coupe and sedan floors are not the same, but perhaps so can get away with sections of the floor. Is it all gone.



I think that black/white coupe is worth saving. That is very rare for a 250C to have leather and Ivory steering wheel. someone paid big bucks for those options unless they were added later.



I hope you save all three if you can.. much better than than riding around in a soda can car with 6 inflating mini bombs without any style.. These are awesome driving once the carbs, wheels, ignition is brought up to the quality of the rest of the car.

I would like to learn more about the floor vs column shift options. The black one is a column shift.

The black one is also a single-family car that was a daily driver until the original owner died circa 2001. The son-in-law is who I'm dealing with, and has done some work that can't be described as anything other that perfection on his 64 Chevelle. He's a real car guy but not a Mercedes guy. He said they did a mini-restoration on this car (when his father in law was alive I believe) and they re-dyed the seats then. I don't recall what else was done then, but I will try to find out. Apparently the squirrels have gotten to the rubber parts and trans fluid was dumping when the car was last started around September. The guy says he will have a few friends available to help me get the car up on a trailer when I come to pick it up. He's a darned nice guy, and even lowered the price on the car for me too. So it's a no-brainer purchase as far as the price goes. However, the quantity of vehicles is overboard. Something has got to give.

I justified the sedan purchase at $500, plus $75 trailer rental, plus $75 gas, plus $100 for some 100-spoke wheels and wheel parts that I ended up selling for about $550 in total. So I'm into my sedan for about $200 NET plus about $10 for points, $18 for spark plugs, and about $50 in fuel so it NET is under $300. It's been a lot of fun for very little money. It's a perfect car to learn to weld on, or maybe just cut off the rear end to save the blue coupe.

I guess that depends on how bad the blue coupe floors are. I don't know. My roofer checked out the car, which started right up, but needs to be dragged out of the mud. My roofer said the rockers aren't bad (seller, a body shop owner, said good), and the floors are rusty (seller never mentioned). My roofer said the body shop guy got the car in exchange for some body work, and apparently somebody has been working on it with all new wires, all labeled from the work, new shocks, and a trunk fu of extra parts. So it sounds like it is a project, and has been for a while. I'm not sure what took it off the road, but I am guessing maybe the rear end damage isn't representative of the reason people drive Mercedes. I should be checking out this car in person, but at the price point, it's just not worth it, especially if my roofer (who drives 1 hour East for work in my neighborhood almost every day) can just fetch it for me. Maybe it will be the parts car. I am pretty sure I will be able to make my money back on parts if that's the end result.

The black one. I checked it well enough in person to know that the rear driver floor has rot, at least a 1" round hole if not lots more. There is visible bubbling that will be rot around the rear driver wheel well. The trunk and entire rear end is solid. The interior smelled of mold a little over a month ago when I checked the car. There was no battery in the car to try and start it, and the seller wouldn't do that if I wanted for trans fluid getting all over the driveway. But from what I remember at this point, I left there thinking, "no way would I pay even $800 for that car." Dr. Eurocar has me thinking though. The leather wasn't an attraction before. But yes, leather... Single family car... Black... Sunroof works (per the seller)... So ok. I can see how the black one may be the one to save... Just no floor shifter.

Then I guess time can tell whether the sedan, or blue coupe get saved, and which is the donor.

I am willing to sell any of these cars because I have plenty of projects to keep me busy.









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That car was likely ordered and seller waited months for the car. Sunroof, Two color paint scheme, Leather, Ivory wheel.. that's a lot of options for a 250C. Floor shift was a more expensive option, but apparently this owner spent his money elsewhere on the car.

The transmission are fairly durable... Once you get it and clean it up, On passenger side of car there is a 3-4 inch round metal cap with a C clip the houses one of the shift pistons, the seal (o-ring) usually breaks on that one first. I have done them in the car, PITA. might be cause of trans leak.

Wow I did not notice was a sunroof car...but I tend to get really excited about w114's and tend to miss things.



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