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280 sel thoughts?

Hi all
I found this one in so cal.
Seems high to me what do you guys think?
What I know already.
Has had a rear end shunt at one time.
Check rear bumper alignment.
A few cracks in dash, some missing wood trim door parts.
Says it drives nice and tight.
somewhat of a mixed bag
but high. how much is realistic?
also it is from Arizona and not yet registered here in California. Is that a hassle to change state? I figured not with pre smog vehicles.
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Changing titles to CA is easy and at that year, CA wont require an emissions test. You can look it over in person, right?
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Oh yeah, what's realistic - for $12k (in my opinion), the car should be about Pebble Beach condition. A nicely kept daily driver like this is something I wouldnt go more than $5-6k. Try NADA.com for a better idea on valuation...
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Yes.... if i feel its worth a look i will fly down. He told me he had not even registered it yet in his name? He bought it last October but his wife hates it? (silly woman) anyway is that a problem that he hasn't even bothered to register it?
!2k is way too high i thought especially since it is definatly not perfect.
I will let you know how i get on, i have asked for lots of pix of all the common problem areas. We'll see
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He told me he had not even registered it yet in his name? He bought it last October but his wife hates it? (silly woman) anyway is that a problem that he hasn't even bothered to register it?
He didn't want to pay sales tax for the purchase probably. I think it's kind of stupid to keep a car for that long and not sell it or register it, but whatever. If the AZ title has the correct VIN on it, and if the VIN is in the door jam, it's very easy to register it. If the VIN on the title doesn't match the VIN on the car then you need to get an inspection from the highway patrol. Still not a big deal.

Price is a bit silly in my opinion unless a LOT of restoration work has been done.

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Hi Scoot
Thanks for the info. As far as price he is out of the ball park. Some of the pictures show how the rear right is out of alignment.
If everything else is good what would you offer?
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I don't have a number. You have to go see the car, inspect for rust, look at the condition of all of the rubber on the car (door rubber is expensive), drive it around, etc. I see nice drivers in the $5000 range. I kind of don't like this particular car because of him buying it and keeping it for 6 months without registering it and then trying to sell it. What's up with that? What did he discover about the car that made him decide to sell... Wife doesn't like it? I doubt that is it.

If you search craigslist in California more cars, you will find that they are not unusual to find. Are you sold on a LWB version? (I would be) Or a 4.5 version? (I wouldn't be)

Next question - how many cars have you looked at and driven? Don't buy the first car you look at and drive. Drive 5 first and then you will be better educated to identify a reasonable value for the money.

Most cars on CL don't sell. They sit there for months. This one isn't going anywhere. I see that he listed it 28 days ago. I wonder if that is the first time he has listed it... If you are actually going to go look at this one, find out if it is worth your time by asking his flexibility on price and suggesting that he might be about double where he should be. If he hangs up, don't waste the time.

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If it checks out good, maybe $6-8K tops. even then that's for a real nice car. It looks fairly decent in picts, but 12K would have to be spotless everywhere.
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Hi scoot and rumb
Thanks for the advice.
i have driven 3 so far, 2 of which were dogs. The third a nice se 4.5 which i still haven't ruled out totally for 7500. He is holding firm on that price. But its no an sel
I thought the whole wife story seemed a bit off as well. And not registering in his name and trying to sell is a little sus.
I will post pix if i get more detail.
As far as the 4.5 i have had 2 before and liked them but have not had any experience with the 6 injected 2.8. I had the 2,5 before carbed and wasn't keen.
i am open to considering the 6 what is the power difference?
I am leaning toward the long wheel base because of the extra legroom and would like the sunroof just because
Thanks guys for the feed back it is very much appreciated.
John.

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