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Yep, that's a proper roadster. The term roadster is used however for any car without a fixed roof. But would you consider a W111 convertible a "roadster"? I know I wouldn't. Here's mine. Cheers
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Yep, that's a proper roadster. The term roadster is used however for any car without a fixed roof. But would you consider a W111 convertible a "roadster"? I know I wouldn't. Here's mine. Cheers

My opinion? (Why would anyone care? But I continue to write anyway.. ??).... W111 has a real back seat. So I would never call it a roadster. Gray area comes with w113 and r107 that had optional back jump seats. I think anything with just two front seats could be called a roadster, maybe even if the top doesn't go down. Wikipedia is never wrong. Right?
"A roadster is an open two-seat car with emphasis on sporting appearance or character. Initially an American term for a two-seat car with no weather protection, usage has spread internationally and has evolved to include two-seat convertibles.
The roadster is also a style of racing car driven in United States Auto Club (USAC) Championship Racing, including the Indianapolis 500, in the 1950s and 1960s. This type of racing car was superseded by mid-engined cars."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadster_(automobile)


Merriam Webster:
"a car that has two seats and a fabric top that folds back
Full Definition
1 a :a horse suitable for riding or driving on roads
b :a utility saddle horse of the hackney type
2 a :a light carriage :buggy
b :an automobile with an open body that seats two and has a folding fabric top and often a luggage compartment or rumble seat in the rear"
http://i.word.com/idictionary/roadster

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Folks,

How easy - or difficult - is it to get the ride height back to stock?

I am looking at a car on eBay in my neck of the woods but I like to put it back to original ride height:
  • Owner indicated that he swapped the pads from #3 to #1 (iirc)
  • And to balance things, took 1.5" out of front spring
  • Indicated that putting back is easy,
parts available

Is it easy indeed?

Thanks,

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I would think the difficult portion is finding the replacement parts. If you've already got a parts car or know someone willing to part out one, that's no problem.

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And so you didn't buy one of those perfect examples that was on mobile.de?

What happened there?

The nice on on ebay is really nice, but I couldn't help but notice that it looks like the hood ornament isn't on the car anymore, and therefore some of the pictures must be older.

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Still looking in Europe and not shy to go that route. However, there is big discussion going on right now on the change last year that might make bringing cars into CA after 1968 models harder as to emissions requirements.

The DMV issued a 2014 requirement that does not make sense, but puts post-68 models in flux (Before that, there were no issue up until 75 I think ... And I have brought in a 1972 Alfa before).

On the eBay car, it sounded like a very amazing original car. A bit of a bummer as to liberty of lowering it with cutting the springs I thought. Some minor cosmetic issues inside as well but it went for cheap at $13k. The lowering issue and the bland color held me back. Everything else on this car would have been ideal (Overall body/ interior condition, documentation, originality, sunroof).

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Still looking in Europe and not shy to go that route. However, there is big discussion going on right now on the change last year that might make bringing cars into CA after 1968 models harder as to emissions requirements.



The DMV issued a 2014 requirement that does not make sense, but puts post-68 models in flux (Before that, there were no issue up until 75 I think ... And I have brought in a 1972 Alfa before).



On the eBay car, it sounded like a very amazing original car. A bit of a bummer as to liberty of lowering it with cutting the springs I thought. Some minor cosmetic issues inside as well but it went for cheap at $13k. The lowering issue and the bland color held me back. Everything else on this car would have been ideal (Overall body/ interior condition, documentation, originality, sunroof).



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Yes. It is a very very nice car. I look at it and think "this is what my black coupe could be" if I was to fix it all up. Sure, it will never be original paint again (but is still the original paint scheme), and the miles are higher. But I think that I'm liking the options a little better on my black coupe:
- no floor shifter. Oh well. I trade that for:
- white steering wheel
- white leather
- tuxedo paint scheme
Otherwise, it looks like the cars are the same with respect to miles and documentation stuff.

So seeing that car go for that much money makes me happy.

But why does it seem to be that that car was for sale not too long ago? Am I making that up in my mind? Or was it really for sale on ebay not too long ago?

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Folks,

Today I inspected a car that I really like. It looked very "shabby chic" but mainly since it has not gotten a wash in years. Super solid, all original, amazing interior, no rust, fully documented one owner car, (Who picked it up in Stuttgart - German delivery plates included), sunroof! I think a detailing marathon can make this car shine. Driving it was rock solid. Great acceleration, smooth, solid, no sounds except engine.

Here is the data card.


A few questions:
  • Owner mentioned that he special ordered the car with hydraulic rear suspension. Data card mentions code 480 "Self-Leveling Suspension". What exactly is this and how worrisome can it be if things go wrong? I know the air suspension cars can be troublesome. How is this?
  • Two electric windows are slow and indicator does not stay for right hand turns. Electric antenna does not move out though you hear the motor. Assume that those things are simple fixes?

That's it. Monday, I will take to the shop that takes care of the car for 25 years and I might bring it to my mechanic for a PPI.

Comments on the rear suspension appreciated.

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Hydraulic suspension is REALLY Nice, but a real PIA. They tend to leak down with age and are expensive to rebuild. Same thing as used in the W116 and earlier cars. One of the budget killers for owners of the 600 Pullman limo. But if you own a 600, you have more cash than you know what to do with.

The electric motors can get tired. You need to pull the door panels to gain access and lube them as well as cleaning up the window tracks so they slide easier.

Antenna motor working is a good sign. You may need to pull the unit out, open the case and see if the antenna pigtail failed. You can feed a new pigtail in and it should return to working. I helped my kid make that fix to his W140

The turn stalk wears out the bump that holds it in position with age. You can unscrew the unit from the steering column, then using a very small round file, you can cut a deeper notch. Really easy task, but you have to go slowly and test often so you do not make it too deep a detent where it does not cancel when you turn or have to yank it back to center.

Original paint should come back pretty well. Your full detail attack may just do the job. I had to do a rather harsh route with the w140 that has severe sap damage on horizontal parts. We started with 1200 grit and worked up to 1500 to get past the oxidation and sap pitting. Then we used cutting compounds and polishes after washing and clay bar on the paint. Finished with a glaze and wax. The shine is exceptional now

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SLS was also available on euro c107 cars. Alibbasi had a 350slc with SLS that he almost parted out. I think his heart couldn't do it. I am not sure if the r107 cars had SLS. I'm sure it's irrelevant.

This is the first I've heard of SLS is a w114. It sounds like a very nicely optioned car. I can't wait to see the results of the "search for the holy grail" w114, very excited in fact.

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