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post #21 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-10-2014, 09:25 AM
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I'd like to see pics too. Think they would look good with a slight drop on the coupe.
Had some silver ones 15" on my W111 sedan from a 190E for a couple years then switched up to something else. Later.

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I originally had 16x8 front and rear with the 225/55/16 tires that were on the wheels when I got them. The tires were not really wide enough for the wheels and 8" wide was out of proportion (too big)for the front. I have since bought 2 15x7 wheels for the front that I think will create a more balanced apperance. I plan on using 245/50/16 in the rear and 225/50/15 in the front. I only have pictures with the old setup-I don't have the new setup installed.
The front 15x7 wheels are 1264003002 ET25 and the rear 16x8 are 1294000102 ET34. I need to use 20mm spacers in the rear. I converted to studs and used high quality hub-centric spacers. I don't know about a 108 but the fit is VERY close in the rear but no rubbing. No problem in the front. I have a pic of the old setup I will post when I get home.
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Do you know the ET for each pair?
What size tires are you running on each pair?
Do you know what model these originally came on?
.. oh, can we see pics of your car with these on there?

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One more question: What is the hub center bore size?
Center Bore: 72.6 listed on some eBay aftermarket wheels.... other listed the center bore as 66.56

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W109 with 6 x 15 ATS Bundts

Actually they're 8 x 15's .I found these rims locally in Brisbane on the local Gumtree site (CL in the USA ) . They possibly came off a ex Hong Kong or UK W126 . The advantage is that i can now use 225x75 15 " tires ,the unsprung weight is a lot less than original 6.5 x 14" steel wheels (6.3's only had these wheels) and driving feel is vastly improved. I can now take sweeping bends at full throttle with plenty of grip,wet take offs no longer mean lots of wheel spin and overall traction is vastly improved.
And yes,the bundt style was offered as an option on all W108 and W108's so apart from the bigger size,they are a period item.
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Pacer Brand Matte Black Steel Wheels in 17x7
Part Number: 83B-7717
Bolt Pattern: 5X112
Size: 17" X 7"
Offset: +38MM
Backspace 5.5"

They dont list the hub bire size, but I think its probably too small... plus, no full wheel covers. You would have to use some dog dish caps and aftermarket trim rings.
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I've read a few things, can you confirm what the stock 14x5.5 wheel off set is ?


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Taken from the sl113 website:

The standard offset for a Pagoda wheel is 30mm positive offset (frequently called 'Einpresstiefe' ET 30).
Pagoda SL Group Technical Manual :: WheelsTires / Start
Pagoda wheels are the same as W108 wheels...

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How about hub bore?

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How about hub bore?
I don't know that answer. Googling "hub bore mercedes W108" presents conflicting information - 67 mm and 69.5mm - and I think those are in reference to rotor internal hub diameter anyway. So I don't know. What I do know is that Mercedes wheels were hub-centric and they all had the same hub size back then. 108, 114, 113, 109, 123,...

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Taken from the sl113 website:

The standard offset for a Pagoda wheel is 30mm positive offset (frequently called 'Einpresstiefe' ET 30).
Pagoda SL Group Technical Manual :: WheelsTires / Start
Pagoda wheels are the same as W108 wheels...

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So would that also be the same for a W114 then ?
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So would that also be the same for a W114 then ?
Yes, basically. There is a difference in the width of the wheels on various cars, and the vent slits vs. vent holes is different, but they are interchangeable. Example: in the US market, a 1981 240D will have a 5.5" width while the same year 300D or 280E will have a 6" width. Early W114/W115 cars will have a 5.5" width. Not sure about later ones. Very early Pagodas have 5.5" width, then quickly switched to 6" width. I think W108 and W109 wheels have 6" width on everything but I'm not sure of that. And if you are in the non-US market and you opt for the 15" rims for service vehicles such as a hearse, they will have 5.5" x 15" rims. Bolt pattern is the same for all of them - 5 x 112. The 600 I believe might have a different bolt pattern that is unique to that car, but I'm not 100% sure of that.

So the size remains the same, but after W123 I _think_ the offset changes. And on W116 I think the sizes are 6" width and 6.5" width, but again, I'm not sure of that. On R107 they run the spectrum since it is such a long run of the car. I suspect a late R107 will have a different wheel size and possibly a different offset than the earlier cars, as will a late W126 and anything after that... But I'm not all that knowledgeable about wheels post 1981....

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