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I really like the general look of the OEM Classic Vintage wheels, I just don't like the size or the weight of them, so here is a little wheel project that I am working on for my 71 250C.....
It's fine if you like the mod. I agree about the weight. On my 71 250C I went for the 14" aluminum wheels that weigh 11 pounds. To each their own, mine ended up looking stock and weighing less which I very much liked...

I am unclear on something - do tires for bigger rims weigh more? How much more?

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Interesting and good idea Karl. For mounting caps you may try I think clips from older VW wheels (5 lug I believe), think they had some with riveted clips.
Or even have some little nubs tig welded on the rim. What color will the spokes be painted. Later.

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Interesting and good idea Karl. For mounting caps you may try I think clips from older VW wheels (5 lug I believe), think they had some with riveted clips.
FWIW I believe that Mercedes sells the studs that are used on the early dog dish hubcaps/wheels and they can be mounted by drilling the wheel and possibly tapping the hole. Check on the sl113.org of 190sl forum - there is a write-up on one of those for adding dog dish hubcaps to aluminum wheels.

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It's fine if you like the mod. I agree about the weight. On my 71 250C I went for the 14" aluminum wheels that weigh 11 pounds. To each their own, mine ended up looking stock and weighing less which I very much liked...

I am unclear on something - do tires for bigger rims weigh more? How much more?

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Scott, you are of course right this would be only for guys that like to mods their cars. I like the OEM + look, like a special car that could have come from the factory. So I will lower my car a bit and up size the wheels n tires.

If I have my numbers right weights would be like this....

Stock - 14x5.5 steel wheel 23 lbs 195/70/14 tires on my car 18 lbs - Total 41lbs

Stock + - 14x5.5 alloy wheel 11 lbs 195/70/14 tires 18 lbs - Total 29lbs

Stock ++ - 16x7 CLK alloy wheel 13 lbs 205/55/16 tires 20 lbs - Total - 32lbs

I'm not 100% sure what tire size I will use yet, maybe 205/55/16 or 215/50/16 or 225/50/16 the bigger the tire the more the wight and tire brands can very a few lbs even within the same size.

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Interesting and good idea Karl. For mounting caps you may try I think clips from older VW wheels (5 lug I believe), think they had some with riveted clips.
Or even have some little nubs tig welded on the rim. What color will the spokes be painted. Later.
The wheel center spokes will be painted body color like the hubcap I did, this should give them the most OEM look.

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Isn't the offset going to be wrong for the later CLK wheel? (I don't know, it's just a question worth investigating...) Also the combination of lowering car and increasing the wheel width makes me wonder about rubbing...

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Isn't the offset going to be wrong for the later CLK wheel? (I don't know, it's just a question worth investigating...) Also the combination of lowering car and increasing the wheel width makes me wonder about rubbing...
I've read a few things, can you confirm what the stock 14x5.5 wheel off set is ?


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Im using these on my 111 coupe. 15x7 in front and 16x8 rear. The look very classy, are original Mercedes and allow more modern size tires.
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Im using these on my 111 coupe. 15x7 in front and 16x8 rear. The look very classy, are original Mercedes and allow more modern size tires.
Tony -
Do you know the ET for each pair?
What size tires are you running on each pair?
Do you know what model these originally came on?
.. oh, can we see pics of your car with these on there?

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