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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-30-2013, 03:59 PM
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Sounds like you should start a non-profit to purchase worthy MB examples worthy of restoring. Get funding thru online sites like Kickstarter.

I can imagine the scenario: Buy a couple of "restorable" W108 coupes and get stuck finding affordable parts and restoration cost escalates beyond your initial budget. Now you are hoping for someone to part out that model on CL or wherever to keep your head above water.

It sounds way too familiar to my projects!!

It would be nice that sellers would at least offer to sell the car whole as-is at realistic prices in order for someone to purchase it as a project. Most often times the asking price is unreasonable and off by thousands and the ads just sit. If it sits for more than a couple weeks, then part it off.
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a few years ago i went to look at a 250se on CL, asking price around 2K i think. car had sat for at least 10 years outside, had been repainted wrong color poorly and had at least 2 fenders that were repaired poorly, inside seats maybe salvagable, all wood toast, large oil leakage from under car near front door. car was locked so could not investigate further. grill damaged. emailed the guy offering $500 token and never heard back.

just because his dad owned it and drove it to hell he thought it was worth something. I counted needing $6k of parts not even knowing if it ran.

Some cars just don't ever come back from high abuse.
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post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-01-2013, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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Sounds like you should start a non-profit to purchase worthy MB examples worthy of restoring. Get funding thru online sites like Kickstarter.

I can imagine the scenario: Buy a couple of "restorable" W108 coupes and get stuck finding affordable parts and restoration cost escalates beyond your initial budget. Now you are hoping for someone to part out that model on CL or wherever to keep your head above water.

It sounds way too familiar to my projects!!

It would be nice that sellers would at least offer to sell the car whole as-is at realistic prices in order for someone to purchase it as a project. Most often times the asking price is unreasonable and off by thousands and the ads just sit. If it sits for more than a couple weeks, then part it off.
Believe me, that thought has crossed my mind a few hundred times, and MAYBE some day I can pull it off.
Every time I go to a self service yard and see a 30/40 year old survivor in decent shape...picked over for nickel and dime parts and the majority stuffed in the crusher after 3 weeks !
I now that most non runners come from Charity donations who don't even bother trying to get them started, just pass them on to the junk Yard.
What strikes me is, that the 'donor' gets a $500 tax credit that amounts to maybe $200 cash value...(NOT a tax credit for what the car might have or will be worth again or fictitious dream prices).
The other problem is, if they donated the car to a 'save a Benz foundation' ,I would be competing against the likes of Cancer research, or other medical needs charities or starving children in Africa etc....
to be continued.....
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post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-01-2013, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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a few years ago i went to look at a 250se on CL, asking price around 2K i think. car had sat for at least 10 years outside, had been repainted wrong color poorly and had at least 2 fenders that were repaired poorly, inside seats maybe salvagable, all wood toast, large oil leakage from under car near front door. car was locked so could not investigate further. grill damaged. emailed the guy offering $500 token and never heard back.

just because his dad owned it and drove it to hell he thought it was worth something. I counted needing $6k of parts not even knowing if it ran.

Some cars just don't ever come back from high abuse.
Yes, the emotional attachment factor...., usually best to walk away.

And agreed, but...

A 250SE came in Sedan and Coupe versions.
The obvious difference is, what makes sense on a Coupe does NOT on a sedan.
Condition is important again.
If you have to do rust repair, then mechanical and then interior you cannot sell a sedan for what you got in it, so most bad ones get parted out even though their prices are on the rise.
BUT a Coupe you definitely want to keep alive.
Europeans are coming around, finally, and willing to pay $30 000 for a clean and healthy car (not a bondo trap with shiny paint and worn drive train).
You have to calculate and weigh the balance.

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My name for it is, "The Dead Benz Society". Comes from having too many friends, like your brother, that are obsessed with saving all the old junk we can find because we're optimistic. I have 28 Mercedes in various states of disrepair (my tag line on the site is out of date). I long ago lost count of the number of Mercedes that have passed through my back yard. I know its more than 100 (I have friends that haul scrap). I've also lost some good friends along the way like Len Levine, Frank Mallory & Greg Andrews who have shared this same affliction for handling old iron. When I go, I expect my friends to quickly clean up the place for my wife and leave her a kitchen and dining room free of car parts (something usually only happens when company comes for Xmas).

Next week, I have six boy scouts coming over to earn the automotive maintenance merit badge. They're going to change the oil and the rotate my tires on my 300te daily driver and they're going to take apart a 1964 220se/c rust bucket that is taking up garage space. They'll be using lots of saws for that and carry the parts out of the back of the garage where the car has been sitting for over 10 years. It's far too rusty to save and there are too many motors blocking the path required to roll the car out of the space. It will give them an opportunity to see what unibody construction is all about compared to the frame bodied pick up truck that they'll be putting the scrap metal in.

Now if I can find somebody who needs a 220se/c motor and 4-speed and perhaps a rear end. They're all that's salvageable with the tail lights and wood gone and the cruddy seats pulled out. I'll have passed the best of the car (except for the memories the boys will take with them) on to somebody.

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