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25 bucks is what I paid for my original becker. if you want one there is still one left in a 250c at europarts in Ottawa. at least it was in there last spring when I went to pick some parts
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25 bucks is what I paid for my original becker. if you want one there is still one left in a 250c at europarts in Ottawa. at least it was in there last spring when I went to pick some parts
What you paid for it isn't the question. There are plenty of people that would pay $200 for a cosmetically good Europa. So if you are valuing it at $25 then I would say your valuation of a significantly more rare Blaupunkt isn't really relevant. What is interesting about the Blaupunkt is that it has FM at a time when most radios didn't have FM. It is a fairly high-end radio for the day. The prospective buyer is quite likely someone with a nice German, Italian, Sweedish, ... car that has an AM-only Blaupunkt.

I'm thrilled at the idea of a $25 europa if it has decent chrome. Hell, I would be thrilled at a perfect chrome bezel for $25....

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I understand your point scoot. but the point is I found 2 radios in 1 day both in good condition and both for a few dollars. if I found them that easily, then I am sure they are around, and not for 3-4 hundred dollars
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I understand your point scoot. but the point is I found 2 radios in 1 day both in good condition and both for a few dollars. if I found them that easily, then I am sure they are around, and not for 3-4 hundred dollars
Oh they really are, and if you find em that cheap....then you buy them and flip them to others searching for one....to both a save the radios b pass them on and the greatest thrill to buy more parts for you car......lots of people don't have the time to search junk yards for things....eBay is so much easier, and if you have crazy money....its nothing to you...
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I understand your point scoot. but the point is I found 2 radios in 1 day both in good condition and both for a few dollars. if I found them that easily, then I am sure they are around, and not for 3-4 hundred dollars
Most ebay buyers are not going to junkyards looking for parts. That's what they pay people like me to do! I completely expect to be very well compensated for junkyarding, particularly when it is 100 degrees out and everyone else is watching a ball game or something. And buyers are completely happy to have someone else do it. I sold a 114/115 first aid kit holder and first aid kit for $200 today and it probably cost me $10 in purchase price and hours in hunting. (It's the only one I've ever seen except in pictures, but that's because it is not standard in California) Buyer got a good deal.

So my position is still that the original poster has a radio that is worth more than his minimum bid and less than his buy-it-now price, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it sold at his buy-it-now price. It also wouldn't surprise me if it sold at his minimum bid. It just depends on who is looking.

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Very nice period radio with FM when few countries transmitted in FM circa 59-60.
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im not trying to offend anyone, but how can that radio be worth 450 dollars? once again, no offence, but I don't think its worth more than 5 bucks. please fill me in if I missed something
Hiya Merc - you hit the issue squarely on the head. Someone who wants a period correct, perfect car with the "correct" options might be interested in such a buy. Folks like me though, are more interested in a new Bang&Olufsen, an Alpine, or anything modern that sounds good and picks up the local NPR station (or the 80s station).

I've seen folks ask $15,000 for a really really nice W108 (and not sell it), and I've seen equally nice ones go for $5000. Really, it just depends on who wants/needs something, and whether they're willing to buy it as asked-for prices.

There's a thread out there, asking what the mystique surrounding old Mercedes stems from. In my experience, most folks are under the impession that the old Benzes are worth a lot of $$, parts cost tons, and that they're rare as hell (all of which is mostly untrue). No offense to the radio's current owner, but it seems he feels the same thing...
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[QUOTE=Scoot;6014657] Hell, I would be thrilled at a perfect chrome bezel for $25..../QUOTE]

Funny you mention such a thing. On Jay Leno's YouTube Channel (Jay Leno's garage), he showcased a system to re-chrome such things. Using an old bezel, a spray on substrate (looked like epoxy primer to me), the shiny stuff (same thing we use to make mirrors) and deionized water, he recovered plastic, engine bits, wood and such, and no skill was required. The guys doing the demo sprayed the stuff without perfect overlap, a steady hand, etc etc. They didn't use protective gear beyond nitrile gloves either, and everything was listed as non toxic.

Eastwood[dot]com sells this stuff (look under chrome or replating). A 1qt kit costs $99 and it assumes you have some sort of air compressor and gun setup. If you have something with a lot of pitting, you can prep the surface with lead or bondo too.

What comes out isn't chrome itself, but shines up like chrome. I'm thinking about trying to redo a Fiat bumper I have, but for interior bits like bezels, this is a really viable option.

What I'm wondering about is how much heat this stuff can take, and how much abuse. I could happily re-cover exhaust manifolds, wheels, and a heckuva lot more

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Funny you mention such a thing. On Jay Leno's YouTube Channel (Jay Leno's garage), he showcased a system to re-chrome such things. Using an old bezel, a spray on substrate (looked like epoxy primer to me), the shiny stuff (same thing we use to make mirrors) and deionized water, he recovered plastic, engine bits, wood and such, and no skill was required.
I think this is the video you are talking about:

It's very interesting and I would be interested in trying on certain pieces of a car, but not the chrome bezel for a Becker radio. The process requires a smooth surface and using a radio bezel as an example, filling with lead and/or sanding is probably not going to be likely to work well. Radio bezels can become very pitted and their small size makes the idea of fixing the surface very labor intensive. You mention filling, bondo, etc. I don't see that being practical on something that size that is deeply pitted.

Interesting process though. Thanks for sharing.

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There's a thread out there, asking what the mystique surrounding old Mercedes stems from. In my experience, most folks are under the impession that the old Benzes are worth a lot of $$, parts cost tons, and that they're rare as hell (all of which is mostly untrue). No offense to the radio's current owner, but it seems he feels the same thing...
Having had a certain amount of experience with 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s Mercedes from both a maintenance standpoint and a buy/sell standpoint, I'll say that there are cars and parts that are extremely rare and extremely expensive and other cars from the same period that are not. A W108 sedan is typically not an expensive car to buy or own, where as a W109 sedan is. Looks the same, but one is a bit more complicated than the other. The most "expensive" Mercedes I own (or have ever owned) is a 67 250 SL. Not a show car, just a very nice driver. To get the correct Becker radio for it took two years of searching on eBay (include ebay.de) and finally buying one for around $250 from Germany. There is someone with the same radio listed on ebay for I think $1400. FWIW, the radio is a Becker Europa TR with the slim faceplate. It's just an AM/FM mono radio but it has a slim face that fits the opening on certain Mercedes coupes pre-1968 and the faceplate itself will easily sell for $250. Why? Because the other option is to enlarge the hole in the dash to accommodate a slightly later Becker.

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