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W114 tire size

I talked to a tire shop today about tires
My car has 195 60 14
To keep the original rims I was told I can go with 225 60 14 bf Goodrich radial t/a
Does anyone have any experience with these tires and any thoughts of how they will sit on the car?
The 195s are just too skinny
Going after market there are tons of options but want to keep the original look

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225's won't work. Well, actually they will fit the car but the spare won't fit in the existing well.

195-75's or 195-70's are the recommended sizes. 205's might work if you get the shorter sizes (60 series, etc)
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My 71 250C had stock 5 1/2" x 14" steel wheels. The largest tire that you can mount on a 5 1/2" wheel is (I think) 205 70 14. Having said that, I used the stock size 175 14 when I bought new tires.

If you want fat tires you need to go with a fatter rim (at minimum). Getting 6" is easy. Bigger than that w/ period hubcaps - I'm not as sure. My guess would be it's easier in Canada than in the states since Canada was probably more likely to have steel wheels longer than the states....

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just put p 195 70 r14 , looks right .
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I want wider for looks
195s are way too skinny in my opinion but I also want stock hub caps
Why would 225 not work
They will fit the run


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I want wider for looks
195s are way too skinny in my opinion but I also want stock hub caps
Why would 225 not work
They will fit the run
There are two issues. One is clearance of various car parts. The other is the width of the tire compared with the width of the wheel. I can't speak to the car clearance. As for the wheel clearance, if you go to tirerack or some other on-line tire vendor you can look up specific tires and they will list in their DETAILS the minimum and maximum width you can use with a specific tire. For example, with a 5 1/2 x 14 rim you can use _most_ 205/70/14 tires but not all of them, and nothing fatter than a 205/70/14. You also need to look at your wheels. They will have the size stamped into them. Mostly likely they are 5 1/2 J x 14 H 2 but they could be 6JX14H2.

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To keep the original rims I was told I can go with 225 60 14 bf Goodrich radial t/a
Well you were possibly told wrong. The tire you mention wants a 6" to 8" rim width and it is likely that your 250C has a 5.5" width. Which means you can't use it. But you can get 6" wheels fairly easily...

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Ok
So what are my options for wider tires and rims but to keep the original hub caps


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So what are my options for wider tires and rims but to keep the original hub caps
6" is easy. Steel wheels from most W108 cars, W123 gas cars and 300D and 300TD (240 D will have 5.5" wheels), perhaps early 116 cars. Perhaps later 114 cars. They should not be difficult to find or expensive. If you want wider than 6" (which it sounds like you don't need) you have to ask people who know more about it than I know.

Early W108 6 x 14 wheels will take either dog dish hubcaps or the full wheel cover, which is what you have/want. Wheels after about 1968 will no longer take the dog dish hubcaps. Date stamp is on the wheel but you can tell by looking at them.

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Do you care if your spare tire no longer fits in the compartment? Or will you just have a smaller spare tire....?

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