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about to buy 1971 250 W114

Might me crazy, but about to buy a 1971 250.

First good news: body is nearly rust free! only a small rust spot behind each rear wheel. hood needs repaint. Interior is pretty good, need a good scrub, only small wear on door seals.

bad news: blown head gasket, weber carbs, current has messed with ignition, and carbs to the point it wont start. may have heater core issue, some A/C issue.

Extras: head with bad cam, tranny.

seller is moving next weekend and needs to get rid of. currently at $800.

Intent is to fix and sell. will prob take me 6 months. nothing on the to do list that I have not done before.


Worst case sell parts.....
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did you say $800?
this one is a no brainier, it's 1 million percent buy
you can sell parts and make tons of money
i wish this car was close to me.

btw, i think it's w115 not w114
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W114 = 6 cyl

W115 = 4 cyl

(generally, some exceptions)

Despite 1.9 Million built, there are very few around, nearly impossible to find listed on EB. From what I read prone to rust, and in 80's value fell to most nothing so cars were abused or thrown away.

To me an interesting design move from the 108 chassis to a new body, but for a few years retained the old design cues like steering wheel and instrument cluster, front bumper and pretty much the same 6 cyl engine. Updated with lower grill, center console, different suspension.

4 cyl versions got good fuel mileage but lacked any power. 6 cyl should be more popular now with more HP.

I don't know if people would rather buy a 108 or a 114 now.
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about to buy 1971 250 W114

People refer to lower grill, does anyone have comparison of the grills, higher and lower I can't visualize the difference
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The W114 received a facelift in 1973 - with a lower bonnet-line, lower and wider grill, lower placement of the headlamps, A-pillar treatment for keeping the side windows clear, ribbed tail lights to minimize occlusion of the tail lights with road dirt, and larger side mirrors. The interior received inertia reel belts and a new padded steering wheel with a 4-hole design. (quoted from wikipedia)

subtle difference on the grills
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Sounds like a good deal to me. Just be aware you have to disassemble a decent portion of the interior to get to the heater core. Not hard per-say but time consuming. Body looks very nice though.
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The W114 received a facelift in 1973 - with a lower bonnet-line, lower and wider grill, lower placement of the headlamps, A-pillar treatment for keeping the side windows clear, ribbed tail lights to minimize occlusion of the tail lights with road dirt, and larger side mirrors. The interior received inertia reel belts and a new padded steering wheel with a 4-hole design. (quoted from wikipedia)

subtle difference on the grills
I have never noticed that. Mine is 71 and I prefer the wider grill for some reason. Thank you.


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I think you should go into this with the idea that you are buying a parts car. With that in mind, I think you should sell me the webers!

Currently: 1967 250 SL, 1963 220Sb, 1965 300SE Lang, 1971 280SE parts car, 1972 Alfa GTV, 1965 Alfa Duetto, 1993 BMW R100R
Past: 1971 250 C, 1985 300 TD, 1967 250 S, 1968 280 S,1981 300 D, 1982 280CE, 3 Facel Vegas, Borgward Isabella Coupe, Alfa 2600 Sprint, Volvo P1900 (yes), numerous less interesting Volvos, ...
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I'm hoping that it doesn't come to that. I was reading about how confusing it is to select heat or cold. Seems to center around the vacuum switch and turning it all the way to determine which to use. I looked for an owners manual online to explain the switch settings and did not find one.

The core does not leak, but do they plug up?



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Sounds like a good deal to me. Just be aware you have to disassemble a decent portion of the interior to get to the heater core. Not hard per-say but time consuming. Body looks very nice though.
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W114 = 6 cyl

W115 = 4 cyl
Minor correction - W114 = gas 6 cylinder, W115 = gas 4 cylinder and all diesel.

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