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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-25-2012, 03:11 PM Thread Starter
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1968 280SE Sedan - New Member Questions

Hello BenzWorld:

I picked up the '68 with a manual 4-speed on the column last week in California. Love the car, in absolutely stunning condition, but I am suffering from a VIN# problem between the title and the car. It looks like a very innocent mistake, but the CA title reads 280SE006760 I will attach a picture of the door plate which reads 10801810006760. I have searched the site top to bottom and have tried to link the classic site, but it does not work. Regardless, I am in a bind as the state of Arizona will not register it without further investigation. Tomorrow I will try again by going to DMV headquarters. What a mess.

The car is amazing though and runs well. It does smoke a bit with moderate acceleration. I assume it is running rich based on smell and grey color. I have the manuals and it seems there is an easy way to lean it out a bit.

Anyway, enough for now. I would appreciate any information on the VIN issue.

Cheers from Tucson.
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-25-2012, 05:58 PM Thread Starter
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post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-26-2012, 10:20 AM
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The chassis-no that you see is the VIN (108 indicates the body style).
The 280SE number on the title makes no sense. Can you get any history on the title or registration from the previous owner? Not sure what the DMV will require because to them it doesn't look like the title matches the car.
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Car looks great btw.
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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-26-2012, 10:50 AM
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NICE looking vehicle. Dual exhaust and sun roof included?
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post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-26-2012, 11:16 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the replies. I have previous owner registrations (2 previous owners) I found in the glove compartment. Both show the VIN as is listed on the title. I was told the original owner transferred to his son, this seems to check out as well based on the last names. So, the error either happened when the car was new or in the passage of the car to the son. I did find a 1971 smog check where the correct VIN is reflected.

No idea! What a PIA.

No sun roof, and I do not believe dual exhaust - dual exhaust tips only (I think).

Thanks again.
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post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-26-2012, 02:55 PM
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The first six numbers are the chassis number and the next two are the market it was built for and the type of transmission. The last six numbers are actually the serial number. So you are OK.

When I registered my older cars here in Ohio I had to educate the BMV person who did the verification.

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post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 01:15 AM
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Lift the hood. The chassis number is stamped into the right hand frame rail. They should match a number sequence on the door plate. Great looking car. My car started puffing blue smoke at 44,000 miles but only at starting up. When I asked a local MB "expert" he said that the valve guides were going bad but it would take a long time before I would have do anything about it. At 69,000 miles it was a quart per 500 miles so I parked it after having the the whole underside and engine compartment steam cleaned. After two years of sitting I tried to start it but it wouldn't turn over. I had forgotten to pull the spark plugs and put a small amount of oil in and turn the engine over to coat the cylinders and they had rusted. I gave the engine and transmission to a friend who discovered that all of the valve seals had come adrift and that was why it used so much oil. MB had issued a service bulletin about this problem but since my car was built after they discovered and fixed the problem no one thought to take a look for it. If you remove the cam cover and shine a light on the valve springs the seals should be on the end of the guides and not up against the bottom of the retainers.
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post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-29-2012, 12:57 AM
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As Carpenterman said I believe that is OK for these cars. I do not have my paperwork in front of me but I believe my car also has a similar registration number. I recall because it confused me when I bought it, but the Oregon DMV handled it with no problems at all, not even a word about it. My car was also a CA car originally, perhaps it's something they did commonly at the time these cars were first purchased? If you continue to have problems send me a PM and I will go to where my car is stored and have a look at the paperwork.

Tell the DMV people that the last digits match the serial number and as for the rest, take them a photo on your phone or what-have-you showing the trunk badge "280se" (even tho it's listed on your paperwork as the model number already) since people respond more to a visual fact than something abstract on paper. I've found that sometimes you need to do the thinking for the fine folks at the DMV. Keep us posted.

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I am still having trouble getting it registered. Mainly my issues with finding time to wait in line at DMV for the fourth time.

One issue I have noticed is that it smokes pretty bad on moderate - hard acceleration. I assumed it was just old gas, but I am on the second tank. Any ideas? It does not smoke at all on idle, and I cannot see any evidence of smoke during slow acceleration.

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Yup, the local DMV loves to play "hard ball". More than likely you'll need to take it in for a physical inspection and apply for a new title over at the Broadmount location. They used to do inspections over at the 22nd St. location which was a bit faster. If finding time is a factor have you considered using one of the title service agencies? For a fee they will do all the leg work for you.
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