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After reading part of this thread, I've gotta toss my 2 cents in here. Regardless of what your intent is (sell at some point or keep forever) it's your car. Do what YOU want. Personally though, I think putting a Japanese engine in it is sacrilege. I have never owned a Japanese car and never intend to. But anyway, there has to be some modern fuel injected Mercedes inline 6 that's had a manual transmission available behind it. Isn't there? Or maybe a cough, cough, BMW engine (at least it'll speak the right language).

(Ok, I'll admit, I did own a BMW. 1972 BMW Bavaria, carbureted 3.0L hemi six, 5 speed manual trans. Great car. It kept me from killing myself when I wrecked it racing a friend in his RX7)

As for color, I think that car would look great in Inferno Red (kind of a candy apple red that was used on the LX platform Chrysler 300, Magnum and Charger). This was used during the Daimler Chrysler days, so it's kind of still in the family. Or the Corvette based Cadillac used a very nice candy red metallic. And yet another was used on mid 90s Ford pickup trucks. I saw a 300 Gullwing (an original one) that was painted in a similar color... stunning. Or black would look good. Maybe do some ghost highlights on it to break up the black and modernize it a bit. ???

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After reading part of this thread, I've gotta toss my 2 cents in here. Regardless of what your intent is (sell at some point or keep forever) it's your car. Do what YOU want. Personally though, I think putting a Japanese engine in it is sacrilege. I have never owned a Japanese car and never intend to. But anyway, there has to be some modern fuel injected Mercedes inline 6 that's had a manual transmission available behind it. Isn't there? Or maybe a cough, cough, BMW engine (at least it'll speak the right language).

(Ok, I'll admit, I did own a BMW. 1972 BMW Bavaria, carbureted 3.0L hemi six, 5 speed manual trans. Great car. It kept me from killing myself when I wrecked it racing a friend in his RX7)

As for color, I think that car would look great in Inferno Red (kind of a candy apple red that was used on the LX platform Chrysler 300, Magnum and Charger). This was used during the Daimler Chrysler days, so it's kind of still in the family. Or the Corvette based Cadillac used a very nice candy red metallic. And yet another was used on mid 90s Ford pickup trucks. I saw a 300 Gullwing (an original one) that was painted in a similar color... stunning. Or black would look good. Maybe do some ghost highlights on it to break up the black and modernize it a bit. ???

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Actually, a BMW engine is a brilliant idea! An S14!! Hahahaha, now that would make for a fun car with the associated G-265. Shouldn't be that expensive either. If I can't have an E30 M3, why not give a Merc the same talent?

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Actually, a BMW engine is a brilliant idea! An S14!! Hahahaha, now that would make for a fun car with the associated G-265. Shouldn't be that expensive either. If I can't have an E30 M3, why not give a Merc the same talent?
Meh. S50. A 1J or 2JZ would be cool.
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Wasn't that a fabulous museum (Mercedes Benz)?
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After reading part of this thread, I've gotta toss my 2 cents in here. Regardless of what your intent is (sell at some point or keep forever) it's your car. Do what YOU want. Personally though, I think putting a Japanese engine in it is sacrilege. I have never owned a Japanese car and never intend to. But anyway, there has to be some modern fuel injected Mercedes inline 6 that's had a manual transmission available behind it. Isn't there? Or maybe a cough, cough, BMW engine (at least it'll speak the right language).

(Ok, I'll admit, I did own a BMW. 1972 BMW Bavaria, carbureted 3.0L hemi six, 5 speed manual trans. Great car. It kept me from killing myself when I wrecked it racing a friend in his RX7)

As for color, I think that car would look great in Inferno Red (kind of a candy apple red that was used on the LX platform Chrysler 300, Magnum and Charger). This was used during the Daimler Chrysler days, so it's kind of still in the family. Or the Corvette based Cadillac used a very nice candy red metallic. And yet another was used on mid 90s Ford pickup trucks. I saw a 300 Gullwing (an original one) that was painted in a similar color... stunning. Or black would look good. Maybe do some ghost highlights on it to break up the black and modernize it a bit. ???

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Maybe the BMW baby six would fit.
Actually, the Nissan might end up being too wide as it is an overhead cam.
An old Ford 289 would be a nice fit, as they are quite small.
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Also remember, that the Ford small block 289/302 is the same as the 5.0L. The 5.0 has a BUNCH of aftermarket parts for it, roller cam, fuel injection, and manual transmissions abound. And they can be twisted up to make pretty good power. (I've had two 5.0 HOs in the past) But still, for that application it may still be too wide.

The GM LS series engines (the late model series, not the 70s versions) make for a very compact package. They get good fuel mileage. And they make gobs of power.

Nah, I'd be looking into a late BMW hemi head, EFI, inline 6 for that car (although, I loves me V8s) if a suitable Mercedes engine was not avaiable. And ViaFanatic already has a BMW, so there should be some familiarity there.

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post #129 of 225 (permalink) Old 01-09-2013, 05:51 PM
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Thumbs up How goes the build?

Hey VaiFanatic,

I just read all posts here. I consider myself a purist to a point. I agree with your decision for a different engine and trans. I would even agree with a different suspension if need be. Funny you mention the VG engine cause I drive a 95 Pathy as my daily beater.

But here's the thing. Keep every part aside in a box clearly labeled in a clear container so that one day you can return it to OG if need. In the meantime you can put different engines in her to keep her on the road while you attend shows and swap meets or online to acquire parts slowly.

Oh and that car destiny stuff you feel about the age of the car, the PO school and such. I totally agree with you there, it makes it special. Keep her forever and show her around with pride.
I'd kill for my dads 220 back. blue with red interior.

Good luck with her and I'll be following your build. Back to my 89 300E restoration.

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Read some of the posts, not all yet. Def. going to keep an eye on this resto/rebuild. I'd go for the small block if it fits, or maybe a 2TG. Later.


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