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power possibilities with the inline 6?

Im hoping there are some real engine tinkers on this forum that can possibly shed some light on how much horsepower you can get out of the MB 250 inline 6? possibly people who have heard of them turbo charged etc possibly with different trannies mated to them to handle the horsepower?

I know inlines are capable of pushing a lot of HP but not sure how the internals like main bearings, conn rods and crank are capable of producing nice power? so I figured I would ask here.

I know I can drop in a v8 or whatever but I think it would be really cool, if possible to add a turbo to the inline and get some juice out of the motor.

any, advice knowledge, links or pointers of where to look would be appreciated...
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Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Even if you boosted the horse power to 300 ponies you'd still be trying to push around a 3000+ lb. car. Waste of time and effort. You wanna go fast? Get yourself a little Beemer, Toyota, Subaru, etc. Use the Benz for what it's meant for. Stylish cruising and longevity.
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Forget about it. You'll have enough headache getting it to run correctly as is.
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Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Even if you boosted the horse power to 300 ponies you'd still be trying to push around a 3000+ lb. car. Waste of time and effort. You wanna go fast? Get yourself a little Beemer, Toyota, Subaru, etc. Use the Benz for what it's meant for. Stylish cruising and longevity.

you sure about that? I have a 3800 pd 2001 b5 s4 v6 2.7l tt (tiny turbos)with 500 crank hp does 11 seconds in the qtr and rips on the track.

I may possiby set this up as a sleeper track car im not into 1/4 mile that much. as of right now the 250 handles really well I just want to look into boosting power output.

I need to know how strong the internals are and where the limitation is of horsepower goal so I dont blow a rod

I can add a turbo to this car and get substantial gains as long as the internals allow it.

300Hp would be great compared to 140hp....

can you change the gearing on this car for higher top speed?
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Don't try to compare an engine designed in 2001 with one using early '60's technology. It's not even in the same ballpark let alone league.

That being said, I don't know of anyone who has managed to destroy the bottom end of the M130 without some catastrophic overheating issue. M130's are VERY susceptible to head gasket failure and warping if subjected to an extreme overheat condition. If you are going to turbo charge the stock pistons then be sure you have a proper inter-cooler setup.

The standard Mercedes turbocharged setup uses specific pistons which are "splashed" with engine oil to cool them.

Supercharging might be a better way to go.

Also be aware the torque curve of an I-6 is completely different than a V-6.

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I know its a different league. I still think more hp is more hp thats all. and a turbo setup is the quickest way to get a huge hp gain
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That being said, I don't know of anyone who has managed to destroy the bottom end of the M130 without some catastrophic overheating issue. M130's are VERY susceptible to head gasket failure and warping if subjected to an extreme overheat condition. If you are going to turbo charge the stock pistons then be sure you have a proper inter-cooler setup.
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