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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-15-2011, 01:33 PM Thread Starter
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Can you ID this axle and/or these brakes?

Need help identifying this axle. At some point in its surely-interesting life, my W111 230S was retrofitted with a non-standard rear axle and its drum brakes. Now I need to order shoes and wheel cylinders for my mechanic, but he's not sure from what car this axle came. Any help would be appreciated, TIA.



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It looks standard to me. The 111.010 230S came with a swing axle with rear drums. The only things that look odd are the twin exhaust system and the horizontal coil in the middle. I think it came with the hydropneumatic compensator. I could be wrong on the last part.

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The exhaust is definitely not standard - the PO had a custom exhaust made, and then had the guys put twin glasspacks on it. :-(
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I agree, the axle looks stock to me.

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Please make sure you grease the two zerk fittings on the swing axle joint. Then there are all the grease fittings on the front suspension.

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Alright, thanks for the help guys. I'll have my guy get on the parts for the brakes. Any guesses on where to check for that compensator, if that's the case, for the swing axle?
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You're better off with the spring. The others are VERY expensive.

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From what I've read, people report no difference in the ride between the spring and the hydropneumatic. I've never seen a car with a swing axle that hasn't had the hydropneumatic eventually replaced with a spring.

With regard to the brake cylinders, they are very expensive purchased new (around $180 each). The good news is that rebuild kits can reportedly be purchased at a regular parts store. The bores are standard sized and are the same as some older American cars. I believe there are two bore sizes. Have your mechanic measure the bore and head on down to the parts store. Ebay often has rebuild kits for sale, as well.

The shoes are extremely hard to find new, and I expect ridiculously expensive. Most folks send them out to be relined.

EDIT: I was reading the Heckflosse site and apparently the hydro cylinder was an option on the fintails.

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Well, I was looking at these shoes: AutohausAZ $26.71, but then I realized that it appears to only be parking brake components. Maybe? I don't know - is it common to have a drum-type parking brake on rear disc-brake equipped cars? How does that work?

I found these wheel cylinders too, at the same site: AutohausAZ $60.70. Thoughts?

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is it common to have a drum-type parking brake on rear disc-brake equipped cars?
Yes - my 108 has the same setup.
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