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advice: 220D or 280 ?

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I am trying to decide between purchasing a '73 220D 4cyl- low miles, great shape. Or a '74 6 cyl. 280 - nice condition - needs a few things. Both drove good & are priced reasonable - the diesel being more $. Both are sedans...

Any thoughts would be appreciated. positives/negatives, ect...

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The 280 is that a carburettor or an injection version? It is a thirsty car, diesel may be more expensive, but the 280 drinks more. If the 280 is an injection version (280E), it has the complicated D-jetronic, which can be difficult/expensive to service.

The diesel is very slow, expect about 30 seconds for a 0-60 mph sprint. A comfortable cruising speed is around 65-70 mph. The diesel is reliable, although it can have its (diesel) problems, certainly if there is neglected maintenance.
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thanks. The 280 iis the carburator version. It has been sitting, but ran nice. The Diesel is in better shape. Slow is fine, reliability is more important. I am sure the 220 would get better mpg's, but does it matter when diesel is more expensive per gallon?
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If you want reliability, than you should take the diesel. You should however acquire some knowledge (if you don't have it already) about these old diesels, so you can diagnose any problems and even repair it. The diesel also requires some extra maintenance: there is oil to change in the diesel pump and in the air filter. Also the oil filter is slightly different from the modern ones.

The better mileage of the diesel will result in a lower fuel bill. Suppose a gallon of gas costs $ 3.40 and a gallon of diesel costs $ 3.90.

Suppose the 280 does 20 mpg and you drive 15,000 miles every year:
15,000/20=750 gallons x $ 3.40 = $ 2,550 yearly fuel bill.

Suppose the 220D does 27 mpg and you drive the same 15,000 miles:
15,000/27=556 gallons x $ 3.90 = $ 2,167 yearly fuel bill.
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Slow is fine, reliability is more important.
Is slower than a retarded kid on Benadryl fine?

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Buy the one with less rust.
I have owned a 75 240D manual and a 72 250 auto. Both are good cars, niether are what I would call fast. I prefer the manual transmission. I sold the 240D with 350,000 miles in 1990. She was running strong, but with very little left of the floorboards. I still have the 250 with 225,000 miles and although she is not rust free she is still very solid.

In my experience rust is what kills the 114s' and 115s'

Regarding reliability, both are very reliable with proper maintenance. That said I would say the diesel was more reliable, only because the dual carbs on the gas engiens can be difficult to tune.

If you are worried about the fuel cost of gas vs. diesel buy a corolla.

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Buy the one with less rust.

In my experience rust is what kills the 114s' and 115s'
Very, very true, and not just for 114s and 115s.

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