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post #31 of 49 (permalink) Old 01-23-2012, 10:34 PM Thread Starter
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My car is back!!


I pick the car in Nuevo Laredo and drove it across the border.

I'll send a full report and more pictures.
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Looks great!......can't wait to see more photos.
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Well done San Arthur! But you should be smiling driving down the road in that beautiful car (I can see you in the gauges!). Lucky you - you have km/h gauges, whereas both my coupes here in Australia have mph gauges. Was your car imported from Germany?

And Carsten, do you have any other links for places that have panels for W111's? Out of that list, only the last one seems to have W111. I will have to find a translator tonight! Our dollar is going well against the euro at the moment, it may be a great time to get some goodies for my coupes. My sills and door skins need a bit of love.
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Well done San Arthur! But you should be smiling driving down the road in that beautiful car (I can see you in the gauges!). Lucky you - you have km/h gauges, whereas both my coupes here in Australia have mph gauges. Was your car imported from Germany?

And Carsten, do you have any other links for places that have panels for W111's? Out of that list, only the last one seems to have W111. I will have to find a translator tonight! Our dollar is going well against the euro at the moment, it may be a great time to get some goodies for my coupes. My sills and door skins need a bit of love.
Cheers, Drew in Oz

Hi Drew,
here are two links to german suppliers that I have purchased panels from in the past. Both have access to OEM parts but also sell reproduction parts (normally marked as "NF").

Bruno Wenner Fahrzeugteile!

SLS Ersatzteile - Mercedes-Benz klassische PKW W111 W108 W114 etc

Hope these links help. If not, please let me know.
Out of curiousity, what W111 model(s) do you have? Do you restore on your own?

Take care!
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Thanks for that Carsten, I will check them out.
I have been on a selling spree of late to reduce the number of cars to sensible levels - sold 2 x W111 sedans - 1 restorer, and 1 was my daily driver.
This is just a hobby for me, learning how to fix the old cars up. But no, I don't restore on my own - I get lots of help from the internet, and a bloke nearby called Mercmad!
My first real project, my 450 powered W111 sedan, is almost done.
Next will be my 250SE coupe. It has a few kinks and twists in it, so I am currently trying to figure out if I will get a professional to straighten it out with me, or whether I buy a good 220SE shell and swap everything over.
Then I have a '64 300SE coupe waiting too. I hope to find out what condition it's engine is in in the next month - if it is no good, I have an '84 500SEC waiting to donate its engine and trans. So my plate is full for the next few years!
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My good experience in Mexico.

At the end, Time was my biggest enemy.
I waited to long to open the engine and get the measurements for the pistons, rings and bearings.
By the time I found and received the right size rod bearings from Germany, for my mechanic to receive them in Mexico and the machine shop to bore the cylinders and camshaft, we lost a month. All the other parts where delivered with in an acceptable time frame.
From the six months my car could legally stay in Mexico, almost 4 months were lost waiting for parts.
Temporary import permits are good for one year, but cars can only stay inside Mexico for 180 days with in that same year. That’s why I only had 6 months to fix the car and ship it back to the US.

These were the labor expenses in Mexican pesos:

BRAKES
Front and rear brake disk rectification $600.00
Install brake lines $234.00
Remove and install disks, change brake pads, refurbish calipers, remove and install brake systems. $1,600.00
Drain, flush and refill brake fluids. $250.00

ENGINE
Fuel injector cleaning in lab. $1,200.00
Engine tune-up, replace belts and hoses, fix radiator leak, change spark plugs 6, air filter, gas filter, oil filter, points, condenser, clean air body, engine oil, remove and install injectors, time engine. $1,400.00
Remove and install engine $3,000.00
Engine overhaul, bore, honing, etc. $13,300.00
Engine disassemble and assemble $2,000.00

FRONT AXLE
Unmount and mount, disassemble, cleaning, bearing and seal rings replacement, compensator spring installation, axle shaft sealing, and everything require to assemble back. $5,000.00

REAR AXLE
Replace shock absorbers, bars, bearings, sub frame kit. $3,000.00

STEERING
Unmount, disassemble, cleaning, seals and gaskets, assemble and mount of steering box. $1,000.00
Unmount, disassemble, cleaning, seals and gaskets, assemble and mount of steering pump. $1,000.00
Allignmnet and balance $550.00

CHASSIS
Cut, fabrication and installation of part of rear side members, includes material, under body paint and labor. $6,000.00

TRANSMISION
Unmount and mount gear box $2,000.00
Disassemble, cleaning, replace seals and gaskets, assemble gear box. $1,200.00

LEATHER
Door and pannel leather reconditioning $5,500.00

WHEELS
Paint wheels $4,000.00

ELECTRIC
Reconnect and check all lights and installed Xenon lights. $1,500.00

TOTAL IN MEXICAN PESOS $54,334.00 aprox. US$3,900 because of a weak exchange rate through out 2011.

Including labor, parts and the car transportation I spent US$9,276.30

It was more than I planed on investing but I’m driving my 45-year-old car everyday to work!


About "Hans" my 280SE; I still have a long list of things I need to do to it, but I’ll open a new thread and hopefully you all will follow me there.

Thanks for reading my posts and if you have any questions, please ask.
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Thank You for posting your project costs.....it really puts things in perspective. I have to admit, upon first glance, I thought to myself, prices in Mexico are not much different than those here in the Bay Area......but then that was Pesos!
All that work for under $10,000USD, including transportation?!?.......you have to be the happiest Vintage MB owner on this forum.
The shots I have seen of your vehicle look great, I look forward to seeing more photos hopefully sometime soon!
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This was a very interesting post. I think that there are a lot of good craftspeople in Mexico, and it seems like a lot of the artists you see on the car restoration shows (particularly interior experts) are of hispanic descent.

I have had two of my W107 steering wheels redone in leather and burl at a very good price, by a company that sends the work there. I have seen prices 2X higher than what I paid; the workmanship was not Pebble Beach, it was good enough for me, because I'm not Pebble Beach either.

I sent my wheels for chroming to a company who has them done south of the boarder, and I got an extremely good price from them, and very good work on imperfect wheels - I actually paid about as much for the shipping as I did for the chroming!

I'd be a little nervous these days about losing my parts, but with the main contacts in the US, there would be some recourse if something happened.

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Additionally, let's face it - a lot of cars are beloved, either by their owners or are "niche", and are not otherwise generally valuable -where putting $40,000 in a car to restore it isn't going to get you a car worth $40,000+.

Going to Mexico would be an interesting option.

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Wow, San Arthur, this was really a cheap job that they have done for you, congratulations! I am saying cheap of course in relation to the money, the quality appears to be good!
I am not that cheap at all in my shop in Guadalajara, but my experience shows me that I am still at about a third of a high quality US or german restore shop.

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Additionally, let's face it - a lot of cars are beloved, either by their owners or are "niche", and are not otherwise generally valuable -where putting $40,000 in a car to restore it isn't going to get you a car worth $40,000+.

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