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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-20-2011, 05:25 PM
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Rusty ?

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I don't recall seeing any rust at all but.....? It has been kept in a garage all its life so it's really in fairly good condition.
I would think that even in the garage the humidity is getting to the car unless the garage well insulated and sealed or was heated in winters. Therefore you need to look in the hard to reach places.
Under the car , obviously , rocker panels and where the rear trailing arms attach. I have seen them completely ripped out.
All hollow spaces (doors, fenders, etc, and of course the trunk floor from inside and from underneath.
If the car is healthy it should not even show 'bubbles' in the paint.....
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I never thought about the humidity getting into the garage but thats a valid point, I will have to give it a very thorough look over when I see it next. Thanks for the advice!
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That would be a fun project and you'll probably be one of few in your city with one. Besides what has been mentioned above, I would negotiate a purchase price sooner than later, I just prefer to own what I'm investing time and money on, that's all. Later.

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I'm biased, get the car, I bought a 56 180 in 1960 had it for many years. If it is rust free its worth the work, Mine started rotting a week after it came out the factory and I chased the rust all of the time I had it. I now have a 190A ponton, totally original. A simple rust test would be to attempt to jack the car up using its original jack. If the jacking points start to give way as they take up the weight of the car you will soon find out. My two cars can be seen on the ponton site previously mentioned. This site is run by jeff miller a ponton owner himself. Keep us all posted and good luck, Ron.
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If you plan to restore it and sell it later it probably will not be worth it because you won't likely recover the money you put in while restoring the car. If owning and driving it regularly is what would make you happy then I suggest you get it and start the restoration. I have a 1959 180D which took a couple of years to restore and I'm very, very happy with it. The restoration was a learning experience as well as the hunt for parts. It is very slow but economical and very straightforward in terms of maintenance, hardly anything electronic. It's also rewarding to see people smile when they see the car. Good luck!
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Here are some pics of the 180 that I took recently. I cleaned her out, replaced most of the fluids, put some oil in the cylinders, replaced the battery, gave her some starter fluid and after just a few tries, she started right up! I drove her around just a little bit (using the e-brake to stop). There's definetly work to be done, but I was amazed at the great condition the engine was in. The interior needs a bit of work, actually a LOT of work, but I think I have located a donor car that I can get parts from. I have some videos of starting her up that I will try to post and link too soon.

Some of the major things that need to be done soon are to locate some seats, replace all the hoses, filters, belts, etc. Get fluid in the brakes and bleed/diagnose their condition, grease up everything, and figure out where to go from there.

I'm sure I'll probably have some more questions in the future, so stay tuned!

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Nice car and I suggest you fix it up and kep it. Also, the rubber parts will need to be replaced. Please check out the Ponton Group.

Mercedes-Benz Pontons (1953-1962) © www.mbzponton.org. Lots of good info there.

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Congratulations! Looks like it's coming along very nicely.

Not surprising that it started up and was running after many idle years. They're really built to last. By the way, are those wooden dashboard panels?
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If it is truly a 1953 car then it is very rare. The early 180's have a flat-head motor and a narrower grill than post 1955 cars. These characteristics make it a more valuable car. Almost any part is available from the MB Classic Center. If you join the MBCA and the Ponton group, as others have suggested, then you will get a discount on parts.

I just replaced the headliner in my car. Got is from Acme in CA. $200. The rear window needs to come out but I also had the windshield removed in order to replace the rubber seal. Seals were around $100 ea. $129 ea for a glass co to remove & replace.

I notice the side moldings are missing. The are expensive, $600 form MB CC.

Good luck with the project.

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I think it's indeed a 1953 Ponton. Though I can't see the grille and the engine, the absence of front quarter windows is characteristic of the early Pontons. Truly rare indeed!
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