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Should I? - 1969 W114 250/8

Hey all,

I used to own a '70 250 so I am somewhat familar with the cars. I recently came across a gent who is nearing the age that one should think about giving up driving. He is selling a '69 250/8, it is in great shape mechanically however it is a little ugly cosmetically and has some rust issues.

- 118,000km (Assumed 100,000km+ as it is a 5 digit odo)
- Last passed emissions testing in 2004 with good numbers.
- Stalls when put into reverse or at idle in gear, but keeping the RPM's up can avoid this. I imagine the carbs need a good cleaning/tuning.

Now onto the rougher parts. I snapped some pictures of the really rusty areas. What do you all think? I need some opinions on the rust, most of it appears to be bubbles and surface but I know these cars can hide rust in areas you can't see.

What are you thoughts?

- Steve
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And a few more pictures for consideration.

- Steve
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And a few more!
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The repair sections for these parts are available in Europe, I just ordered a bunch through a supplier in Norway. The car should be cheap because rust free examples can be had for quite little (at least here in TX).

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I used to own a '70 250 so I am somewhat familar with the cars. I recently came across a gent who is nearing the age that one should think about giving up driving. He is selling a '69 250/8, it is in great shape mechanically however it is a little ugly cosmetically and has some rust issues.What are you thoughts?

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I'm not quite sure what you are asking... If you want a project and you don't care about money and you really like this car, go for it. If you want a nice 250 car and it doesn't need to be this one, you can find a good rust-free car with decent paint for FAR less than it will cost to put this one in order. So my opinion is to ignore this car or consider it only as a parts car for a better car that has a good body. If it's a good driver, pay him a few hundered as a parts car. It isn't worth fixing the body, or at least it isn't cost-effective.

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If you want a project and you don't care about money and you really like this car, go for it. So my opinion is to ignore this car or consider it only as a parts car for a better car that has a good body. It isn't worth fixing the body, or at least it isn't cost-effective.
Yeah, I second that notion. When I restored my 108, it had rust everywhere, and I stupidly removed everything, reqelded in more and spent waaaaaaay too much $$. The rust you show in the pictures is what you can see - there's more you can't, especially in the inner rockers. The car will ocntinue to rust its way from the inside out, and you'll never make any $$ on it.

However, if you have tons of time and $$, and don't mind chasing down many rust issues, I'd go for it. These care are a ball to work on
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grube is right, you need big coin to restore but you will have a great time. I know I did.
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hey allabasi, who is the supplier in norway europe? can I get the email, website or phone number. thanks
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I wanted some opinions on the rust, I got 'em!

I'll be passing on this one, that frame rust on the passenger inner rocker was exactly like my old 250 but worse.

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