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Whats up guys. I'm gonna bag the 72. I'm real excited. I'm going full aftermarket with a set from bagit.com. Any one have any HELPFULL info for me with situations I might run into.,. Thanks guys the last 2 pics were my inspiration.
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I've got two of those in that exact color, 4.5 and a 6 cyl.

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If you notice the pics you like, the rear wheels are cambered dramatically making the car impractical/unsafe to drive. I suppose you could show it off sitting still, but you'll have to raise it to near normal height to get the rear wheels straight so you don't chew up the rear tires.

That's the downside of swing axles as opposed to IRS or a live axle.

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Thats my only concern. but have a solution. I can put an adjustable either air bag bellow there or a pneumatic adjustable strut which is what came on the 300 to adjust the camber when the vehicle is lowered. Just have to design something that would work. I wouldent need any sensors basiclly just eyeball it and GO.

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im all for this. keep track of what kit you bought and anything you ran into. I want to get rid of the 4x4 look myself, but was leaning toward shock/spring setup. However, i wouldnt rule out the air bags either.

Easy to get around the rear camber issue. of course you wont be able to get rid of all of it. however, you can size the bags right to where full height is acceptable to drive on while still being lower than stock.

Personally, if i were to bag the car and keep stock 14 inch tires-- chewing through a pair of tires a summer would be least of my concerns. Imo, the cost of two tires is relatively cheap compared to the joy of driving the car.

The camber itself doesn't scare me either. lets be realistic, if you are running a car lowered like that, you are going low and slow and not exactly looking to shred corners. Hell, i see worse camber on fwd hondas that are improperly lowered.
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72benzyacht, can you please explain to me how you can level up the swing arms to fix the camber whilst keeping the car low? Basic geometry tells me that this is impossible with the top of the diff being a fixed position.
I think you should get under the car and have a look at what is under there...
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don't worry about the rear wheels, that isn't enough to affect the handling. the crappy stock tires are a larger limiting factor.

For bags, there are couple of good places. With all things, if you spend a little more you will be better off. For example get Goodyears and not Slams, I would also go with 4 valves and tie it together. check out RideTech.com - Air Suspension Specialist for better info. I am swapping over stuff from my 300 (track car) to my 280.

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i have looked into bags for my finny... And as for the camber situation, to do it all properly you most likely should find a new rear end with independent suspensions, or your camber will chew your tires, starve the end far end of the whole rear of oil, and you will go through wheels seals because they need o be lubricated!
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Nice w108 man.....that is a real clean one.... I do not see why the camber would be any danger ....You cannot drive it slam anyways, so do not even worry....the only time where you can drive the car slammed is on a straight flat road, and I see no danger there..... If you keep it at a low stance while driving. not slammed, the camber will hurt nothing except tires.... No danger, if anything, you will have better cornering....

Get hold of Air Ride technologies....They have air struts (shocks)....instead of conventional big air bags you can use those...They do not take a lot of room, easier to mount. I doubt that you are looking to hop this car up and down..... So you can use electronic adjuster with diff set-ups....With a push of a button the car will raise or lower to the pre-set height.....

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FOrgot to support Jackasic He's right....you cannot get rid of the camber in any way....Unless you replace your whole rear end.....
Also: Yes, make sure you go with 4 valves...4 independent feeds....
A decent custom shop should be able to install the whole deal for around $1500 or less.....Compressor, air tank, 4 bags, valves, lines, conrtoller + labor.....

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