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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-14-2010, 10:00 AM
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Hi, there.
The only conversions worth to mentioned where that ones of Hoffmann (Germany) in the 80-90 because they had the original body features of hte cab. I never drived a conversione wich was good enough for me to been bought. So know I own the pagoda and in few month my coupe is ready to start (I had one former in the 90,s). With my 500 E, the 220 CE Cabrio and my wife's W211 320 TE is a nearly perfect combination I think.

Don't cut a coupe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I know its personal taste, but you will be chopping up a design classic and it will always be a non genuine convertible,apparently its quite apparent that a coupes been cut up, to do with the gap from bootlid to back seat??
Sounds like a hell of a lot to do reinforcing wise as id suspect that roof provides a huge amount of stiffness.
I confess to favouring the coupe over the conv. by a wide margin as that roofline is unmistakeable & the 2000 500cl's took their roofline inspiration directly from the w111 as its the best looking modern coupe by far in my eyes.
Ive always preferred pillarless with a sunroof to a full convertible.
Why not carve up a cheap finny , chop the roof,make it a 2 door,(lengthen doors too coupe length etc) and put your own design hardtop on as a learning curve? if you botch it, just send it to the scrap dealer, it'll probably save you from making mistakes on the precious coupe, and hopefully youll be so over the conversion , youll leave the coupe alone!!
as for personal design tastes, they do change, i know so many people that built a house based on a current design trend, only years later regretting it, as they had a tacky pig, especially when they started to educate themselves on design.
You will always have a buyer for your coupe....but a coupe thats been bastardised???wont be the same type of buyer.
Each to their own tho and if you do do it why not drop in a 500 w117 with a 5 speed as well.
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Regarding building one from a Finny sedan....

here " Is one i prepared Earlier.."
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Quite a lot of work gone in that project. How was the car reinforced structurally?
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I'm all about customizing your own car to your own tastes and standards, but I've got to chime in my own "don't do it" vote. Consider, if you will, that resale after the chop will be considerably less than if it had the factory roof.

If you do go down this road, keep us up with pictures. I'd be interested in seeing how you do it.
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Intersting thread...I found this on Wikipedia.

In The Hangover the personages use a 1969 280SE Convertible to go from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and trash the car. Apparently the convertibles in the movie the Hangover were modified coupes. 16 coupes were used in the movie as they were crashed multiple times. The 280 SE coupes and convertibles are actually designated W111 in Mercedes nomenclature.

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I know this is an old thread, but very interesting to read! I have some insight on the conversions, as I knew a couple of MB owners back in the late 1980's that owned 3.5 conversion models in Los Angeles. Both were done properly and one couldn't tell the difference! At that time, all the reinforcement plates, boot "bucket", quarter panels, trunk lid, top frame, etc. were all available from MB at a reasonable cost. With the exception of replacing the side rails (which were welded with reinforcements), all the correct parts were added or switched out. Even in the 1980's, the conversion was around $15-$20K, but it still was cheaper than obtaining a true 3.5 Cabrio. The mystique of a owning a 5 seat Cabrio had been gone since 1971 (until the 300E model in the early 1990's). Quality conversions were more in demand at that time.

Unfortunately, there are many bad conversions out there! One can see the improper gap between the top and trunk lid; incorrect backseat; wrong trunk hinges; lack of under dash lights and glove box map light (only available on cabrios); incorrect tops and window gaps; AND THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE ERRORS BEFORE THE MOST IMPORTANT - CHASSIS REINFORCEMENTS.

I think at this point, it's a shame to convert a nice original coupe, since one can't even obtain the parts anymore (unless they are obtained from a front end wreck). But, I do think that owning a conversion that was done back in the day may not be so bad if one can verify it was done correctly.

I think authentic W111/112 cabriolets have some cowl shake to begin with....I can only imagine how bad it would be if they weren't reinforced properly!

In summary, I think it would be more prudent to find a conversion that was done properly before destroying another lovely coupe.
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