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Looking at a 1978 240D 4spd with 210K on it...

The guy selling it says it runs good but the battery will dischage very fast like there is a short somewhere? it seems to be in good shape for the year...
I'm kinda wondering how much it would be worth if I can fix the draining batt problem and what kinda problems I should look for b4 buying it?
(I'd like to make it a resto/driver project) are they decently peppy for getting around town with the 4spd manual?
Thanks a lot!

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Peppy? Maybe in 1st gear. This model is built for long distance runs but will deliver around town too. Many were used as cabs in Europe. Rust and worn rear axels will be two problems to look for, rust being a major contributor to electrical gremlins. Motor mounts, tierod ends, steering damper, shocks, radiator clogging with rust, check all of these.
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Are you sure there's an electrical problem, or just a weak battery? Or an almost-out alternator? Batteries and alternators can be checked at the local parts store - they most often test them for free.

As for pep, the non-turbo diesels were never known for being sporty. Good on fuel consumption though...
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hey guys thaks for the info!!! But alas I didnt end up getting it... I think I'll stick with my auto 300D Turbo...
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Well, the guy just got back to me and said he didnt end up selling it, So I may end up getting it... I'll post later with info...
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Talking I bought it!

It was 2 whole quarts low on oil!!! but it had been sitting for 3 years... (1000 miles in 3 years qualifies as "sitting" in my book) and the clutch is in desperate need of a replacement... but for how it looks and how the engine runs (added 2 1/2 quarts b4 we started it) I couldnt pass it up

Is there a how to on here about replacing a 240D clutch?

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Are you sure there's an electrical problem, or just a weak battery? Or an almost-out alternator? Batteries and alternators can be checked at the local parts store - they most often test them for free.

As for pep, the non-turbo diesels were never known for being sporty. Good on fuel consumption though...
It was the alternator! (has a brand new battery) Jump started it and by the time I got home I could barely see the road the lights were so dim!
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Pep up your 240 D

You can "pep up" your 240 D with a nice set of aluminum (11 pounds each) wheels. That removes about 80 pounds of unsprung weight (so the car will be great in the obstacle course!) and another 20 pounds in the trunk. If your car is a 1978 chances are that it has 30+ pounds steel wheels... they take the same wheel cover and were sold on MBs for a couple of years (after 1978, before Bundt). Let me know if you want more info or pictures...

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Well, I'm not a sage on diesel clutches, but experience with other cars taught me that clutch replacement is more or less straight forward. Remove the starter, clutch cables or linkage, and start removing bolts from the engine. Be sure to support the transmission after you remove tranny mounts and drive shaft. The whole thing will then come down. Last time I did a clutch, it took me 7 hours to take down and about as much to bolt back in....
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You can "pep up" your 240 D with a nice set of aluminum (11 pounds each) wheels. That removes about 80 pounds of unsprung weight (so the car will be great in the obstacle course!) and another 20 pounds in the trunk. If your car is a 1978 chances are that it has 30+ pounds steel wheels... they take the same wheel cover and were sold on MBs for a couple of years (after 1978, before Bundt). Let me know if you want more info or pictures...
I would definitly go for some lighter wheels! (would the ones on my 1985 300D Turbo be the aluminum ones? (the dont have the hub caps tho?)
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