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The average speed on autobahn was 134 km/h = ca 84mph.. Last year (wiki)
How fast do you really think they were going in 1960 ?
(Back then, only a few percent of cars could hit the 125mph mark..)

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my 67 250SE is very happy cruising at 85.... much more so than stop and go traffic.
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These were the most advanced cars for their time, and the autobahn didn't have a speed limit. 40-50mph cruising speeds is unrealistic. The point I'm trying to make is that if hoses, belts, fluids and such have been replaced, a throrough tuneup has been accomplished and the engine and tranny are good, you can take an old Benz around the world twice. It's what they were engineered for.

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Sure, they were the best of their era.. No problem there..
My point is, the car is OLD !!! Very old, and it is a good idea to take it a bit slow..

It's very easy to use the power and wanting to show that "the ol' girl" still has it..
But of experience, the old cars must be at least weekly, for longer trips, if you one day suddenly decide to cross USA..
I belive the car will be able to do the trip !
But, it pays to take it at an staedy pace.. I don't say drive 35-45.. But keep the revs varying, from low to high.. Only high when warm etc.. Sure, for some miles the car certainly will be able to keep the speed up at 85.. But I wouldn't recomend doing it all day.

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If I may add, there have been times when I was driving through Arizona for example, where increasing my speed seemed to be better for my car as it pushed more air through the radiator, the engine temp dropped the faster I went. To be honest, I felt in that case at least that the higher speeds kept the car in better condition for a long haul, if I was driving slower in the heat it might have gotten much hotter faster. Also, at higher speeds there's less gear changing and such since you're moving at a constant so there is definitely something to the school of thought that highway driving (and the associated speeds) is less punishing on a car than slower driving.

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Totally agree about the highway speeds, which have been high (esp in Europe) for decades. Sort of depends on which engine/transmission you have just how high an RPM reading 70mph will translate to. Many of our cars are quite relaxed at that pace.

Frankly, I'd feel more secure driving my old W111 on a long highway trip than my W215. Because if there's a failure, it's far less likely to be catastrophic, for example the W215 ABC system exploding far from a dealership where it could cost $5K and a week's time to fix. Frankly there's nothing on the W111 which would qualify, except perhaps for the engine which always seemed unburstable.

But there's good advice above about preventive maintenance and carrying a spare fanbelt and anything else like that which might be hard to source. Though the existence of the internet (for sourcing parts) and cell phones (for summoning assistance) make travelling in an old car easier than ever before. Do it and enjoy yourself! Just try not to get hit as you don't have eight airbags!
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Imagine driving a 1970 6.3 at 40 MPH for 1000 miles? Or a 4.5 for that matter.
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Hahaha!! I took my 4.5 from San Diego to Denver last November, and was shocked many times to see my speedo climbing past 100! I'm not used to driving without a cruise control!

Of course, my gas milage sucked!!
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I think you mis-understand me..
I'm NOT saying drive like a "grandpa" all the time..
But, driving in 85 on a highway, even in fourth gear will give a rather high rpm.. Wich is something you usually won't get in a newer Benz..
Also, depening on where you are in the states, the temperature, tyre-pressure, etc etc.. All are points that can prolong OR shorten your trip..

If driving in 85 in Nevada keeps the engine cooler, then it might be better to do so there.
Driving in the moutains, with some long up and downhill driving, a slower speed will likely keep both the engine, the brakes and the drivetrain in a better condition..

Also, the engine temperature don't need to match the temp of the gearbox, the final drive or the temperature of the grease in the wheelbearings..

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