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1969 280se Conv - Plz help a newb...

Hi all,

After much googling, I've finally come across this terrific forum. Needless to say, this is my first post and I need some help (after parsing through the 280se search for the last hour).

I have recently acquired a 1969 280se convertible (280/se/c/8 on the tag). It is a one owner car with about 117k miles, moderate exterior rust bubbles, but is in otherwise good condition for a 30 year old car (as seen by someone who really does not know too much about these cars). Engine runs great and everything in the car works.

Here are just a few of my questions... can anyone tell me if this make/model/year is considered "collectible"? The main reason for the question is for me to decide how serious I need to take the resto... I'm trying to resolve if this car is the kind that I need to get serious about keeping the same paint colors (dark grey on tan fwiw), interior, etc...

Also, I'm sure there are some SD folks around here... can anyone recommend a place (other than the fantastic place in Irvine) for me to take this car into to have checked out and maybe brainstorm some ideas on the resto?

Thanks for the help in advance.

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The 2 doors are very valuable, especially the cabrios. They are well worth the repairs. There are three versions, the high hood, low hood and the 280SE 3.5 with the V8.

Please post some pics.

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Being "collectible" is not only gauged based on vehicle type like what wbain already mentioned (2dr coupe or convertible) but also depending on it's condition (freshness and completeness)

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Your car is well worth the effort as long as you go into it with eyes open, restoration and parts for W111 coupes and Cabrios,(yours) are hugely expensive, but so is the value of the car once restored, just do a quick check on ebay and see what they are bringing.$$
Yours being a 2.8 is most likely a tall grille car, 2.8 with the low grille were run out models at the end of the production range and very rare, this was the V8 hood normally. Lower because the V8 set lower in the chassis, versus the tall 2.8 6cyl. They are truly IMHO the finest body style coupe and cabrio that MB made post war. I had a W111 Coupe 220SEb, and would truly love another when the right deal comes around.. Good luck with yours.

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Definitely a keeper. Be prepared to spend a lot of $$. Just a side note, If it is a 1969 it is then 40 yrs. old not 30.
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Thanks all... and yes... 40 years old. Lost a decade there somewheres...

So I've been doing a bit of digging and have a few pictures. Engine is a 6, so I think we are looking at a '69 111, right?



Had the engine checked out and but for a few minor leaks, it is in good running order. There are some rust spots, but it is not as bad as I thought it might be (spare tire area, couple of wheel wells edges, etc...). Found a bit of bondo work and a new front left rocker. Otherwise, looks pretty solid. And it has the tool bag and manuals which is slick (btw... do the new cars still have owner maintenance schedule to 250kms? ;-p).

Here are a few more shots...





One real pressing question... if/when I bring this car in for paint, how serious should I be in maintaining its original color?

Thanks for all of the continued help.
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If you are considering re-sale value, keep everything as original as possible. If you are just looking at it as a driver, don't be as concerned. It would be easy to spend 15,000 on a good body and paint job. Fenders and rear quarter panels are 2,000 each. As has been mentioned, it would be worth it in the long run. Total production for the coupe and convertible was 5,187 units from 1968-1972. Price was $31,140 East Coast in 1970.
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Made a mistake. The car is actually a 1968. Got it registered today and noted the mistake.

Any idea what the going rate should be for a proper paint job on this kind of project (SoCal)?
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280se update...

Greetings all...
Thought I would post this by way of an update (and in hopes of getting additional questions answered).



Paint and chrome are done (or very nearly so) and the car just went in for a new interior. My big question of the day is this...

The car currently has black carpeting that must have been redone at some point. Is there any way to tell what the original color might have been? Is there a website that shows the original color combinations from the factory? We have the leather resolved, but the carpet is bugging me. If it is black, that's fine. Just want to make sure.

Thanks for all of the help and advise!
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