1961 220SE - Mercedes-Benz Forum

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-08-2009, 04:58 PM Thread Starter
BenzWorld Junior Member
 
Date registered: Jan 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 39
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
(Thread Starter)
1961 220SE

Gentlemen - my first request for specific feedback.

You already read my "classic for a year" mission. What do you think of a 1961 220SE for the purpose?

And ... if I can press the issue ... are there any idiosyncrasies of that model I should be aware of?

As an aside - the one I've stumbled upon is exactly the same model I drove back in the 1960s, when it was new, so I've got to fight off the "serendipity" factor. The only problem in my *first* 220 was the a/c compressor went bad after five years. Really enjoyed and respected that car.

Thanks.
Tom
NutmegCT is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-09-2009, 07:32 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Feb 2008
Vehicle: 2004 W220 (S430) ; 2001 R129 (SL500) Sport
Location: Alabama Gulf Coast--formerly Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 1,335
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Sorry to drop in again, Nutmeg--one of the things you may remember about your 220SE was its woeful acceleration. Woeful for 1961. Today, it would border on being downright dangerous. I also seem to recall those models are known for less than sterling gas mileage because the engine has to work so hard to propel them at highway speeds.

If you are going to stick to surface roads and are content to motor along sedately rather than staying with the flow of traffic, the 220 may have enough "memory appeal" to be one to consider.

I think you'll find the 2.8 liter engines to be better suited to today's traffic.

I don't know enough about them to say anything about their quirks. If you google the model number (W___--I don't know it), you might find an owner's forum like the W108 has.

"Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."--John Steinbeck
DrJfrmLA is offline  
post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-10-2009, 03:25 PM Thread Starter
BenzWorld Junior Member
 
Date registered: Jan 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 39
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
(Thread Starter)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJfrmLA View Post
Sorry to drop in again, Nutmeg If you google the model number (W___--I don't know it), you might find an owner's forum like the W108 has.
John - certainly no apology necessary. Good to hear from you again. I had emailed you on Feb 1, but didn't get a reply, so figured you were busy. I included photographs of my Triumph, and personal pictures of where I work.

Maybe you never got that email?

On another tack: can anyone point me to a source of troubleshooting and/or maintenance info on the mechanical fuel injection system of the 1961 220SE?

Thanks.
Tom
NutmegCT is offline  
post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-10-2009, 10:40 PM
BenzWorld Senior Member
 
Date registered: May 2007
Vehicle: 64' 220SEc, 72' 300SEL 6.3, lots of parts
Location: San Diego/Spring Valley
Posts: 512
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
IF that 220SE M127 has an automatic transmission, power steering, A/C it will be a dog as noted, my 64' 220SE coupe manual everything euro is plenty fast.

Brian O
bostosh is offline  
post #5 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-16-2009, 01:02 PM
BenzWorld Senior Member
 
drew56cus's Avatar
 
Date registered: Oct 2006
Vehicle: 1965 220SE sedan (finnie) with 450SE conversion, 1964 220SE coupe project, 1966 300SE coupe
Location: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 418
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Gee, you guys must either be in a permanent rush or have driven some really bad 220SE's. I have a variety of finnies, and my daily driver is a tired '63 220S with auto. It goes fine - just remember that they love to rev. Use the auto like a semi-manual if you want to go faster. Seeing as this trip is about enjoying yourself and having an experience rather than trying to get somewhere for an appointment, why the need for 0-60 in sub 4 seconds?

If no one on here can help with the FI question, then join the google heckflosse group and ask there. There are a bunch of very cluey guys who know the cars inside out.

Issues from my experience with these cars:
- rust of course. Behind front wheel, in the sills, in the boot wells, bottom of the front guard near the front door, sometimes the headlight buckets.
- you want one with good rubbers, as replacing all of those can be expensive (though most should last another 20 years if you do replace them).
- people who do a lot of highway driving sometimes opt to put a V8 diff from a W108 3.5 or 4.5 car into them to get a better diff ratio for high speed cruising - bolt in fit.
- go to the Ozbenz site (ozbenz dot net), W111 section. The very top entry is one by me called "The Finnie Bible". I have tried to collate a lot of useful info that I have had provided to me over the last couple of years of trawling around the net and finding stuff. There are some weird euro symbols in there that I just noticed, but it has lists of maintenance items, rust points, and other stuff I have found useful.

Cheers,
Drew in Oz
drew56cus is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Mercedes-Benz Forums > Vintage Mercedes-Benz

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Mercedes-Benz Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











  • Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     
    Thread Tools
    Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
    Email this Page Email this Page
    Display Modes
    Linear Mode Linear Mode



    Similar Threads
    Topic Author Forum Replies Last Post
    F.I. help 1965 220SE crashdaddio Vintage Mercedes-Benz 11 02-10-2011 03:25 AM
    Problem with my '96 220SE mr220se Vintage Mercedes-Benz 1 02-24-2008 10:41 PM
    just bought a 65 220se coupe mercbuff Vintage Mercedes-Benz 5 09-14-2006 11:39 AM
    Sold '59 220SE Coupe Lee Mus Vintage Mercedes-Benz 2 01-09-2005 08:04 PM
    1959 220SE Cabriolet JFDATLAW Vintage Mercedes-Benz 8 01-09-2004 04:02 PM

    Posting Rules  
    You may post new threads
    You may post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are On
    Pingbacks are On
    Refbacks are On

     

    Title goes here

    close
    video goes here
    description goes here. Read Full Story
    For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome