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Hi guys

I am new to the forums.

I am a proud owner of a mint condition 1972 280SE 4.5 and am looking to expand my S-class collection to the W108/109 sucesssor - the W116.

I am looking at a 1980 450SEL...I am curious what pros and cons are with those automobiles and some of the differences are. I know that the same basic engine is used, but CIS with lambda is being used on the 450 as opposed to EFI on the 280.

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Hi there, I also am new on these forums, and own a 71 280SE 4.5, and also a W116 450SEL(euro version).
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A warm welcome to you both! Please feel free to post early and post often! [:)]

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Thanks Ron!

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Hi,

The biggest weakness of these cars (later US 116s) is the climate control servo. The system itself is fairly
easy to troubleshoot by an experienced Benz technician, but the servos crack and develop
leaks. The part is expensive, and quality of rebuilt servos varies quite a bit. It's nice when it works,
though. ;)

CIS is a solid, reliable system - if taken care of. Generally, it's less expensive to maintain than
the earlier EFI setup. (The CIS engines are also equipped with hydraulic lifters, another plus.)

The most important thing IMO is to find a tech who's experienced with these models, and understands their
"quirks", of which the 116 has a fare few.

The 116 was way ahead of the 108 in terms of safety, reliability and technical innovation...a "clean" example is still a fantastic highway cruiser, even modern sedans pale in comparison.

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